What are the things you wish to upgrade/do for your FORTE?

muff wrote:Got one more posion coming.....

will be trying out insulating the aircon pipes within the engine compartment area tomorrow.....was told it work well with the Avante.....

the DIY will be to wrap the aircon's pipe with rubber insulator thus reducing the heat transfer (noticed there is water droplets on the pipe) indirectly reducing the workload of the aircon's compressor.......if you were to look at the aircon's pipes, you will notice that some portion of the pipe are insulated and some portion are just bare metal pipes......I will be insulating the bare portion (wonder why it is not completely covered?)

will post update/feedback after installation.........hopefully there will be improvement......

basically the bare piping section serve a purpose as already mentioned for heat transfer, wrapping it may be counter-effective....

Anyone who is changing the rim remember to weigh the KIA rim and share with us. tks

do tyre shop got weighing machine????

muff wrote:Just DIY mine.....total cost less than $4.....

refer to the below for picture and write-up by members from the Avante club :

http://clubavante.informe.com/forum/diy-aircon-pipe-isulation-dt788.html

Muff, I agree with you on your mod of the air-con piping.
My previous ride is a Toyota Collora 2002 model and I have been using it for six and half
years (never top-up gas) and the air-con is as cold as our new Forte. I do remember
the piping was completely covered with the rubber insulator end to end.

I will do the modification as what you have done.

Thanks, and this a very vital issue for all Forte owners.

Juz@kid wrote:do tyre shop got weighing machine????

Should have bah, if not can bring a bathroom weighing machine. This information is good when choosing new rims hehe

eraser wrote:

Juz@kid wrote:do tyre shop got weighing machine????

Should have bah, if not can bring a bathroom weighing machine. This information is good when choosing new rims hehe

bring bathroom weighing machine!!! bro,, u serious har hahahaha...

Yup serious haha. Unless I find the grip of the tires are bad, if not I don't think I would change the rim till it is 2 yrs old. So can change together with tires. And also just incase I scratched it... at least I know not heart pain. Said all these, in the end may be swayed by poison
Therefore forum and meetups are bad for wallets keke

muff wrote:Just DIY mine.....total cost less than $4.....

refer to the below for picture and write-up by members from the Avante club :

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Hi muff,

2 metres of the 3/4" pipe insulatior is enough for Forte? Thanks.

eraser wrote:

Juz@kid wrote:do tyre shop got weighing machine????

Should have bah, if not can bring a bathroom weighing machine. This information is good when choosing new rims hehe

read somewhere that our stock 17" with tires weight at 25kg each.....four at 100Kg

Changed my stock 17" yesterday, there was alot of difference in movement and expression of the mech when he carried the stock to the shop and the new rims out of the shop so I suppose the stocks are pretty heavy.

Start off is slightly better than previously, not that sluggish feel anymore otherwise pretty much the same during travel.

One thing that bothers me though, is that the ride is much quieter and steering is significant smoother after the change with balancing.
Makes me wonder if C&C even bother to do that for the cars prior to collection. Before the rims change, I noticed the ride was not very quiet and steering is not smooth at higher speed above 100km/h-120km/h. After the change, today travel was quiet and smooth.

I didn't use new tyres, juz swap the old stocks one over the new rims. So it can't be the new rims as they are of the same dia and width as old one nor tyres since they are stock.

What u guys think of it?

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muff wrote:Just DIY mine.....total cost less than $4.....

refer to the below for picture and write-up by members from the Avante club :

http://clubavante.informe.com/forum/diy-aircon-pipe-isulation-dt788.html[/quote]

Hi muff,

2 metres of the 3/4" pipe insulatior is enough for Forte? Thanks.

Yes, 2 meter enought......actually still got spare abit...

Fortec wrote:Changed my stock 17" yesterday, there was alot of difference in movement and expression of the mech when he carried the stock to the shop and the new rims out of the shop so I suppose the stocks are pretty heavy.

Start off is slightly better than previously, not that sluggish feel anymore otherwise pretty much the same during travel.

One thing that bothers me though, is that the ride is much quieter and steering is significant smoother after the change with balancing.
Makes me wonder if C&C even bother to do that for the cars prior to collection. Before the rims change, I noticed the ride was not very quiet and steering is not smooth at higher speed above 100km/h-120km/h. After the change, today travel was quiet and smooth.

I didn't use new tyres, juz swap the old stocks one over the new rims. So it can't be the new rims as they are of the same dia and width as old one nor tyres since they are stock.

What u guys think of it?

From your pictures, it look like the offset is lower with the new rims, i.e. they protude more then stock.. this may have contributed to your handling....

Fortec wrote:Changed my stock 17" yesterday, there was alot of difference in movement and expression of the mech when he carried the stock to the shop and the new rims out of the shop so I suppose the stocks are pretty heavy.

Start off is slightly better than previously, not that sluggish feel anymore otherwise pretty much the same during travel.

One thing that bothers me though, is that the ride is much quieter and steering is significant smoother after the change with balancing.
Makes me wonder if C&C even bother to do that for the cars prior to collection. Before the rims change, I noticed the ride was not very quiet and steering is not smooth at higher speed above 100km/h-120km/h. After the change, today travel was quiet and smooth.

I didn't use new tyres, juz swap the old stocks one over the new rims. So it can't be the new rims as they are of the same dia and width as old one nor tyres since they are stock.

What u guys think of it?

How much did u pay for the rims after trade in of the original rims?

kapitan wrote:

Fortec wrote:Changed my stock 17" yesterday, there was alot of difference in movement and expression of the mech when he carried the stock to the shop and the new rims out of the shop so I suppose the stocks are pretty heavy.

Start off is slightly better than previously, not that sluggish feel anymore otherwise pretty much the same during travel.

One thing that bothers me though, is that the ride is much quieter and steering is significant smoother after the change with balancing.
Makes me wonder if C&C even bother to do that for the cars prior to collection. Before the rims change, I noticed the ride was not very quiet and steering is not smooth at higher speed above 100km/h-120km/h. After the change, today travel was quiet and smooth.

I didn't use new tyres, juz swap the old stocks one over the new rims. So it can't be the new rims as they are of the same dia and width as old one nor tyres since they are stock.

What u guys think of it?

From your pictures, it look like the offset is lower with the new rims, i.e. they protude more then stock.. this may have contributed to your handling....

The offset for the stock and new rims are same at 50, the spokes of the rims are convex hence looks a bit protruding. Weight wise, the stock need 2 hands to lift and new ones 1hand...quite alot of difference.

Fortec wrote:

kapitan wrote:

Fortec wrote:Changed my stock 17" yesterday, there was alot of difference in movement and expression of the mech when he carried the stock to the shop and the new rims out of the shop so I suppose the stocks are pretty heavy.

Start off is slightly better than previously, not that sluggish feel anymore otherwise pretty much the same during travel.

One thing that bothers me though, is that the ride is much quieter and steering is significant smoother after the change with balancing.
Makes me wonder if C&C even bother to do that for the cars prior to collection. Before the rims change, I noticed the ride was not very quiet and steering is not smooth at higher speed above 100km/h-120km/h. After the change, today travel was quiet and smooth.

I didn't use new tyres, juz swap the old stocks one over the new rims. So it can't be the new rims as they are of the same dia and width as old one nor tyres since they are stock.

What u guys think of it?

From your pictures, it look like the offset is lower with the new rims, i.e. they protude more then stock.. this may have contributed to your handling....

The offset for the stock and new rims are same at 50, the spokes of the rims are convex hence looks a bit protruding. Weight wise, the stock need 2 hands to lift and new ones 1hand...quite alot of difference.

u didn't change the spare to the same lighter rim, can save some weight as mentioned that the ride experience better handling, maybe the balancing of the OEM tires wasn't done properly....

ya tot of that too...can also use for rotation...might juz go down and get it change too.

Anyone know if the aircon for our Forte are factory fitted or locally fitted ?

muff wrote:Anyone know if the aircon for our Forte are factory fitted or locally fitted ?

Hi muff,
I DIY fixing the rubber insulator to the air -con piping. I paid $2/= for the 2m rubber insulator and $7/=for a can of black adhesive. Now I feel really very nice and cooling to drive,
thanks for for putting up this thread.
I think our Forte air-con is factory fitted, because no two competitive car agent will use the same
contractor to fit the unit. Both Avente and Forte unit look similar in order of running in the engine compartment.
Don't you think so. Will post pics of my mod after I run in tomorrow.

yes , the Avante and Forte look identical cause they are basically the same cAR. Sharing the same platform and engine (Avante Gamma I & Forte Gamma II) if you look closer you will find a lot more things looks identical ....

btw it seems to me that the engine have slightly more power this afternoon, could it be that engine need not drive the aircon compressor so hard now?

andikong wrote:

muff wrote:Anyone know if the aircon for our Forte are factory fitted or locally fitted ?

Hi muff,
I DIY fixing the rubber insulator to the air -con piping. I paid $2/= for the 2m rubber insulator and $7/=for a can of black adhesive. Now I feel really very nice and cooling to drive,
thanks for for putting up this thread.
I think our Forte air-con is factory fitted, because no two competitive car agent will use the same
contractor to fit the unit. Both Avente and Forte unit look similar in order of running in the engine compartment.
Don't you think so. Will post pics of my mod after I run in tomorrow.

Bro, hard to diy? mind show some pics interested to do too

muff wrote:yes , the Avante and Forte look identical cause they are basically the same cAR. Sharing the same platform and engine (Avante Gamma I & Forte Gamma II) if you look closer you will find a lot more things looks identical ....

btw it seems to me that the engine have slightly more power this afternoon, could it be that engine need not drive the aircon compressor so hard now?

Well I think so! because the compressor need not work so hard now (after fixing the insulator).

I also discovered that when I went for 1000k service. The service guy at C&C set the air-con temp to the lowest level when I collected my car.. I suspect something is not right to the air-con unit.

I thinks is easy, jus get the material and cut it to the right size and use cable ties to faster it rite

tish wrote:

andikong wrote:

muff wrote:Anyone know if the aircon for our Forte are factory fitted or locally fitted ?

Hi muff,
I DIY fixing the rubber insulator to the air -con piping. I paid $2/= for the 2m rubber insulator and $7/=for a can of black adhesive. Now I feel really very nice and cooling to drive,
thanks for for putting up this thread.
I think our Forte air-con is factory fitted, because no two competitive car agent will use the same
contractor to fit the unit. Both Avente and Forte unit look similar in order of running in the engine compartment.
Don't you think so. Will post pics of my mod after I run in tomorrow.

Bro, hard to diy? mind show some pics interested to do too

Hey Tish, is not hard to fix, just a little hand work and slight dirty fingers
I still have 1m of the insulator and 3/4 tin of adhesive left I can also past on to you.

P.S. for your info I am the oldest member in this forum, a long kept secret.
If I can do it, you can do it too! Now, I am the coolest Forte driver in town!

newsman wrote:

Nicely done bro,,, but the pics only see half.. think forum got problem

andikong wrote:

tish wrote:

andikong wrote:

muff wrote:Anyone know if the aircon for our Forte are factory fitted or locally fitted ?

Hi muff,
I DIY fixing the rubber insulator to the air -con piping. I paid $2/= for the 2m rubber insulator and $7/=for a can of black adhesive. Now I feel really very nice and cooling to drive,
thanks for for putting up this thread.
I think our Forte air-con is factory fitted, because no two competitive car agent will use the same
contractor to fit the unit. Both Avente and Forte unit look similar in order of running in the engine compartment.
Don't you think so. Will post pics of my mod after I run in tomorrow.

Bro, hard to diy? mind show some pics interested to do too

Hey Tish, is not hard to fix, just a little hand work and slight dirty fingers
I still have 1m of the insulator and 3/4 tin of adhesive left I can also past on to you.

P.S. for your info I am the oldest member in this forum, a long kept secret.
If I can do it, you can do it too! Now, I am the coolest Forte driver in town!

I also got a secret i keep very long, im actually the youngest driver here in terms of looks hehehhehe

Thanks for ur offer, but my ride not here yet:( Maybe u can pass to other bro here who wants it who has their ride now? U can always let me know again where to get so i can get when my car is here.


thansk alot for ur offer!!!

letss keep our secret to ourselves ok hehe

tish wrote:

andikong wrote:

tish wrote:

andikong wrote:

muff wrote:Anyone know if the aircon for our Forte are factory fitted or locally fitted ?

Hi muff,
I DIY fixing the rubber insulator to the air -con piping. I paid $2/= for the 2m rubber insulator and $7/=for a can of black adhesive. Now I feel really very nice and cooling to drive,
thanks for for putting up this thread.
I think our Forte air-con is factory fitted, because no two competitive car agent will use the same
contractor to fit the unit. Both Avente and Forte unit look similar in order of running in the engine compartment.
Don't you think so. Will post pics of my mod after I run in tomorrow.

Bro, hard to diy? mind show some pics interested to do too

Hey Tish, is not hard to fix, just a little hand work and slight dirty fingers
I still have 1m of the insulator and 3/4 tin of adhesive left I can also past on to you.

P.S. for your info I am the oldest member in this forum, a long kept secret.
If I can do it, you can do it too! Now, I am the coolest Forte driver in town!

I also got a secret i keep very long, im actually the youngest driver here in terms of looks hehehhehe

Thanks for ur offer, but my ride not here yet:( Maybe u can pass to other bro here who wants it who has their ride now? U can always let me know again where to get so i can get when my car is here.


thansk alot for ur offer!!!

letss keep our secret to ourselves ok hehe

Yeh! the Youngest and the oldest, we still can communicate and no generation gap.
See you all Forte drivers at the nearest meeting where by I can join in.

I heard that I heard that. Andikong can pass to me?

greatgazoo wrote: I heard that I heard that. Andikong can pass to me?

Neighbour get a piece too?

greatgazoo wrote: I heard that I heard that. Andikong can pass to me?

No problem! where you like to pick it up, I am in the east. How about Kallang MacDonald?
Do it ASAP and enjoy a cool Forte Ride!

Cool! when? Kallang my favourite place

Fortec wrote:

greatgazoo wrote: I heard that I heard that. Andikong can pass to me?

Neighbour get a piece too?

No problem too bro Fortec. What is $2/=! I will compliment you the 2m Armaflex.

thx champ! I am looking forward to the next meet up already!!!! All the intoxications we gonna get!! Wahaha

Fortec wrote:thx champ! I am looking forward to the next meet up already!!!! All the intoxications we gonna get!! Wahaha

I tink i dun wana wait till next meet up liao. We meet asap Bro andikong you free this week?

greatgazoo wrote:Cool! when? Kallang my favourite place

You set the date and time, I 'll try to match you and at the same time take a look at my simple mod
very clean cut.

You know why? I am a designer, I like DIY and doing it neat and simple.

Wah, I like designer but in the end become an accountant which I dun like

How about Sat? I will pull my neighbour along.

greatgazoo wrote:

Fortec wrote:thx champ! I am looking forward to the next meet up already!!!! All the intoxications we gonna get!! Wahaha

I tink i dun wana wait till next meet up liao. We meet asap Bro andikong you free this week?

Yes! I will purchase the Armaflex tomorrow, and will meet up together with greatgazoo at the same place. Share the adhesive. its very good and fast dry. no messy fingers

Neighbour plus plus! ...you stayed near kallang area?

Wow, thanks You very much Bro! Do we have to go buy the cable tie? And Sat what time?

Fortec wrote:Count me in too!

Bro I already say will pull you along leh.

greatgazoo wrote:

Fortec wrote:Count me in too!

Bro I already say will pull you along leh.

Neighbour plus plus!

greatgazoo wrote:Wah, I like designer but in the end become an accountant which I dun like

How about Sat? I will pull my neighbour along.

Saturday OK for me, morning Between 10am to 11am not so hot @ Kallang MacDonald.
Bro Fortec can you make it?

Me no problem. At the same time can show you my auto-fold mirror also.

greatgazoo wrote:Me no problem. At the same time can show you my auto-fold mirror also.

Wah u got it done already..so fast!

andikong wrote:

greatgazoo wrote:Wah, I like designer but in the end become an accountant which I dun like

How about Sat? I will pull my neighbour along.

Saturday OK for me, morning Between 10am to 11am not so hot @ Kallang MacDonald.
Bro Fortec can you make it?

Unfortunately I got to work on sat, just go ahead without me bah. I will learn from Greatgazoo after he come back from "Wudang Shan".

Or Andikong, issit possible to make it 3.30pm?

greatgazoo wrote:Wow, thanks You very much Bro! Do we have to go buy the cable tie? And Sat what time?

Yes! black or Dark colour cable ties. For fully tighting the rubber insulator after applying the adhesive.
One more thing, you don't need to wait for the engine to cool down, just get ready a piece of dry cloth
dry up the water vapor around the pipes and proceed, Aprox 1 hr job, Done.
Can you buy the cable ties!

greatgazoo wrote:Or Andikong, issit possible to make it 3.30pm?

For me it's OK! How about bro Fortec?

No problem. I will get the cable tie. So is it possible we meet you 3.30pm at Kallang Mac or you prefer 10am.

3:30pm sounds good! Thx for the arrangement guys