Friend looking down on Forte

aural wrote:When i told my friend my average FC is ard 7.5L/100km during this run in on mineral stage most say not too bad. But of course mine is Manual and 15inch rims. Now backside itchy thinking of increasing my rim size to 16 or 17....

Yo bro.. my EX's rim size is 17 and my average FC is about 7.8L/100km!

saturnz^83 wrote:

aural wrote:When i told my friend my average FC is ard 7.5L/100km during this run in on mineral stage most say not too bad. But of course mine is Manual and 15inch rims. Now backside itchy thinking of increasing my rim size to 16 or 17....

Yo bro.. my EX's rim size is 17 and my average FC is about 7.8L/100km!

I dun think the rim size will really affect the FC so much. Now is just upfront top up how much only. Lol. Actually if anyone wants to swtich rims from their stock I dun mind see how to get a deal i top up the difference in the trade in. To me the stock 17 looks good enough.

Yesterday met my client and he asked me hows the car so far, he is interested in this for a period of time already.

Many of my colleagues also interested in our car..one of them now driving a Camry and he is intending to get Forte for his wife!

saturnz^83 wrote:Many of my colleagues also interested in our car..one of them now driving a Camry and he is intending to get Forte for his wife!

If he gets the 2.0L i think he might just end up driving forte more. Sun roof more sporty. 8)

lukester wrote:welcome to the club Zul, glad u made the switch.

You made the switch too? Actually I'm a bit reluctant to let go of the Cerato. It's a damn stable car at high speed and I've grown used to it. But I made the switch because I need a normal plate car and the Cerato is a OPC. But no regrets. The Forte beats the Cerato hands down .

Why this thread suddenly become about FC?? Hahaha!! :-)

But I think best speed for Forte is 110km/h. A way to tell for different cars is, look at speedometer. Where the arrow/needle points exactly at 12 o'clock, thats the optimum speed. :-)

REad it somewhere or someone told me. Cant remember. :-)

title on for the start.... after 1 page.... anything goes.....

JuanST wrote:title on for the start.... after 1 page.... anything goes.....

Juan very true!

Just curious, those bros that managed to get 11-12km/l from their SX auto, what petrol do you guys pump?

KingJerry wrote:

JuanST wrote:title on for the start.... after 1 page.... anything goes.....

Juan very true!

Just curious, those bros that managed to get 11-12km/l from their SX auto, what petrol do you guys pump?

maybe they have super light foot...

I feel my foot quite light also le.. Rarely hit 3k rpm..

Daniel^Bigcow wrote:Why this thread suddenly become about FC?? Hahaha!! :-)

But I think best speed for Forte is 110km/h. A way to tell for different cars is, look at speedometer. Where the arrow/needle points exactly at 12 o'clock, thats the optimum speed. :-)

REad it somewhere or someone told me. Cant remember. :-)

But alittle noisy when u go to 100km/h and abv. Might be due to the visor. Any bros without visor experience louder wind noise when u drive abv 100km/h

KingJerry wrote:I feel my foot quite light also le.. Rarely hit 3k rpm..

I rarely hit 2k rpm... lolz.. well the most fuel consumption come from stop to moving off... and also depend on your normal route you take..

KingJerry wrote:I feel my foot quite light also le.. Rarely hit 3k rpm..

^5 i also ....

but sometimes high rev to clear carbon

below 3K rpm, engine still sleeping leh....

how high is high? i rev never hit 4k leh... lol

Kiang wrote:

KingJerry wrote:I feel my foot quite light also le.. Rarely hit 3k rpm..

^5 i also ....

but sometimes high rev to clear carbon

KingJerry wrote:I mostly city driving.. 95%.. that probably explain why the FC is so poor...

Yeah, there's many ways to improve FC. Personally I find that the best way to improve FC is pump tyre to recommended pressure, reduce load and use expressway. For myself, I never take care of air con, petrol grade, tyre and rim size and rpm. I am forgetful, so I make it a habit to pump tyre everytime I pump petrol. I don't leave anything in my boot except for a few barang that my wife insist keeping it in car and no need to bring in and out. Whenever possible, I use expressway. Even if it means the distance may be longer. But I can improve FC and reach destination earlier than if I use normal city route. For expressway, I try to avoid PIE and especially CTE.

lukester wrote:btw, bed ur is 2.0 r 1.6SX?

i drive 70% of time on city, i am getting 8.5l/100k these days

last time i can reach 7.4, now no more.

[img]http://www.ceratoforte.forumotion.com/general-discussion-for-cars-only-f30/[/img]

but i did get away with this for 2km with no aircon and city driving after i pump full tank recently

Mine is 1.6SX AT.

aural wrote:

Daniel^Bigcow wrote:Why this thread suddenly become about FC?? Hahaha!! :-)

But I think best speed for Forte is 110km/h. A way to tell for different cars is, look at speedometer. Where the arrow/needle points exactly at 12 o'clock, thats the optimum speed. :-)

REad it somewhere or someone told me. Cant remember. :-)

But alittle noisy when u go to 100km/h and abv. Might be due to the visor. Any bros without visor experience louder wind noise when u drive abv 100km/h

Nope only wind sound from front tyres back tyres not too sure need to ask passages for feed back.

Bed wrote:

lukester wrote:btw, bed ur is 2.0 r 1.6SX?

i drive 70% of time on city, i am getting 8.5l/100k these days

last time i can reach 7.4, now no more.

[img]http://www.ceratoforte.forumotion.com/general-discussion-for-cars-only-f30/[/img]

but i did get away with this for 2km with no aircon and city driving after i pump full tank recently

Mine is 1.6SX AT.

wow sure anot FC so low mind 2L around 11-13km/H boot still quite empty on 1 box of washing car battle gear.

One day u have to tell ur friend this

" I really regretted buying the Forte...... It is so good that it makes me want to drive more and waste fuel"

muff wrote:below 3K rpm, engine still sleeping leh....

hahaah i dun mind...
as long as the car can move can liao lor

Bros, I realised that if you leave the pump to auto cut off, it will show a better reading for FC as compared to you trying to pump in to the max, ie when the lever auto cut off the fuel, you still try to pump in more (especially in JB).

Is that true?

Well, I use SPC in SG but Shell in MY. So not sure if there is a diff. SPC can give me 7.5l/100km on average 70% expressway. In MY, 90% expressway, the FC shot up to 8.8l/100km (with the kiasu fuel pumping style)

kevinhwc wrote:Bros, I realised that if you leave the pump to auto cut off, it will show a better reading for FC as compared to you trying to pump in to the max, ie when the lever auto cut off the fuel, you still try to pump in more (especially in JB).

Is that true?

Well, I use SPC in SG but Shell in MY. So not sure if there is a diff. SPC can give me 7.5l/100km on average 70% expressway. In MY, 90% expressway, the FC shot up to 8.8l/100km (with the kiasu fuel pumping style)

yupz. If you overpump, your average FC will shoot through the roof. The more u squeeze the higher it became.
So if you overpump, you need to reset the average FC.
If you let it auto click then your average FC actually will remain and dun need to reset.

Hmm...this is new to me. :-)

aural wrote:

kevinhwc wrote:Bros, I realised that if you leave the pump to auto cut off, it will show a better reading for FC as compared to you trying to pump in to the max, ie when the lever auto cut off the fuel, you still try to pump in more (especially in JB).

Is that true?

Well, I use SPC in SG but Shell in MY. So not sure if there is a diff. SPC can give me 7.5l/100km on average 70% expressway. In MY, 90% expressway, the FC shot up to 8.8l/100km (with the kiasu fuel pumping style)

yupz. If you overpump, your average FC will shoot through the roof. The more u squeeze the higher it became.
So if you overpump, you need to reset the average FC.
If you let it auto click then your average FC actually will remain and dun need to reset.

Why ah??

Everyday when you stop by a traffic light, just count how many people walk pass you. At least you got a car . Your life and family don't revolve around your "FRIEND"s opinions of you car.

Of course Your friend must physically look down on Forte. If not he'll never see what you drive...

Basically everybodys' preference is different. I won't take it as look down.
If your friend really look down then why must he drive CAR and not Spaceship?

liplip wrote:

aural wrote:

kevinhwc wrote:Bros, I realised that if you leave the pump to auto cut off, it will show a better reading for FC as compared to you trying to pump in to the max, ie when the lever auto cut off the fuel, you still try to pump in more (especially in JB).

Is that true?

Well, I use SPC in SG but Shell in MY. So not sure if there is a diff. SPC can give me 7.5l/100km on average 70% expressway. In MY, 90% expressway, the FC shot up to 8.8l/100km (with the kiasu fuel pumping style)

yupz. If you overpump, your average FC will shoot through the roof. The more u squeeze the higher it became.
So if you overpump, you need to reset the average FC.
If you let it auto click then your average FC actually will remain and dun need to reset.

Why ah??

I also dunno. My first few tank i let the uncles pump and they always squeeze extra and when i on my engine my avg FC will jump to 19l/km from the norm. Only when i pump the petrol and let it click, the FC avg remain.

ask that mit go fly kite la... in terms of performance and stylish...i no need to say much. its only the brand that is doing the trick?

example...there is a low-end toshiba LCD tv, and a high-end akira LCD tv. which one u choose? i would choose the high-end akira. quality and can watch more comfortable ma...

i feel sad for myself.. cant even hit 10km/L.

loveforte wrote:i feel sad for myself.. cant even hit 10km/L.

Yours 2.0 or 1.6?

Mine previous tank also 8.5km/l.. Now i'm getting 10.5km/l.. Somemore i'm like doing 70 - 80% city driving..

loveforte wrote:i feel sad for myself.. cant even hit 10km/L.

learn to glide.... then ur fc will be better.....

Last sunday, went to Cashurina to have Prata for supper.

Managed to get a seat next to my car.

@ least 3-4 families were impressed with the Forte and most commented that it is now comparable with Japanese car makes.

soon the price will also be comparable......

Then I prefer it to remain like what it is now, cheaper, but better. If not next time, cheap cars will really mean junk cars......

it only became cheaper because the won went down. once south korea's economy recover, it will be more expensive....

joepele wrote:Last sunday, went to Cashurina to have Prata for supper.

Managed to get a seat next to my car.

@ least 3-4 families were impressed with the Forte and most commented that it is now comparable with Japanese car makes.

u sure u were still seated after all the praising ? hahha u will be floating by then lolx

Siaoster wrote:

joepele wrote:Last sunday, went to Cashurina to have Prata for supper.

Managed to get a seat next to my car.

@ least 3-4 families were impressed with the Forte and most commented that it is now comparable with Japanese car makes.

u sure u were still seated after all the praising ? hahha u will be floating by then lolx

He floats until FC improved.

Wah, like that i wanna float too! I wanna improve my FC!

KingJerry wrote:Wah, like that i wanna float too! I wanna improve my FC!

Haha pump urself with helium lots of it haha

Yo bro 1 of my collage at my work place said you buy korean car next time want to sell very hard. Y he think like that?any comments?

KingJerry wrote:Wah, like that i wanna float too! I wanna improve my FC!

try flintstone drive.....haha

shawnseah82 wrote:Yo bro 1 of my collage at my work place said you buy korean car next time want to sell very hard. Y he think like that?any comments?

cos its te old perception.

some people still think korean cars are crap even though they probably havent driven or ridden one before.

if korean cars are bad, why would taxi comapnies make the switch from toyotas??
If someone argue that the initial acqusition cost might be lower for korean thats why taxi companies buy them, then its wrong.
cost if korean cars are bad, then maintainance cost will be high, propbably they wont use them at all right?
From what i understand, taxi companies usually get the better cars to rent to taxi uncles, they wont want to be stuck with crap that cant be rented out.

the other thing is, they think company with longer history is better.
Crap again, look at all the comapny with longer history like Ford and GM...

newer cars liek forte and avante are introduced to eliminate some of these perception thats why they are better design and build.

JuanST wrote:it only became cheaper because the won went down. once south korea's economy recover, it will be more expensive....

won is at last July level already.

if it hits last january level, its very high liao.

either that or th usd goes down again.... then won might go up...

i wonder if cnc is using direct trade between sgd and won...
or everything is converted to usd first?

On average from one top up to another i am able to hit 550-570km then top up about 44-46litres.

i suspect they trade in USD.

cos the price is not going up much.

if it goes up, it is usually because of COE.

anyway OT agian

lukester wrote:

shawnseah82 wrote:Yo bro 1 of my collage at my work place said you buy korean car next time want to sell very hard. Y he think like that?any comments?

cos its te old perception.

some people still think korean cars are crap even though they probably havent driven or ridden one before.

if korean cars are bad, why would taxi comapnies make the switch from toyotas??
If someone argue that the initial acqusition cost might be lower for korean thats why taxi companies buy them, then its wrong.
cost if korean cars are bad, then maintainance cost will be high, propbably they wont use them at all right?
From what i understand, taxi companies usually get the better cars to rent to taxi uncles, they wont want to be stuck with crap that cant be rented out.

the other thing is, they think company with longer history is better.
Crap again, look at all the comapny with longer history like Ford and GM...

newer cars liek forte and avante are introduced to eliminate some of these perception thats why they are better design and build.

My SE told me KIA was approached by 1 of the taxi operators inquiring about the use of Forte as taxi in Singapore. Apparently it was rejected cause the minimum order quantity wasn't met.

KingJerry wrote:

lukester wrote:

shawnseah82 wrote:Yo bro 1 of my collage at my work place said you buy korean car next time want to sell very hard. Y he think like that?any comments?

cos its te old perception.

some people still think korean cars are crap even though they probably havent driven or ridden one before.

if korean cars are bad, why would taxi comapnies make the switch from toyotas??
If someone argue that the initial acqusition cost might be lower for korean thats why taxi companies buy them, then its wrong.
cost if korean cars are bad, then maintainance cost will be high, propbably they wont use them at all right?
From what i understand, taxi companies usually get the better cars to rent to taxi uncles, they wont want to be stuck with crap that cant be rented out.

the other thing is, they think company with longer history is better.
Crap again, look at all the comapny with longer history like Ford and GM...

newer cars liek forte and avante are introduced to eliminate some of these perception thats why they are better design and build.

My SE told me KIA was approached by 1 of the taxi operators inquiring about the use of Forte as taxi in Singapore. Apparently it was rejected cause the minimum order quantity wasn't met.

wa...heng ah..... kenna rejected....if Forte used as Taxi in SG then our forte's value sure drop.....

Driven a sunny before switching to Forte.

Forte is a good car but comparing between those 2 cars i would say Japanese give a better 'feel'. as compare to the forte. sunny really gives a more solid feeling everything just feel tighter.

Forte gives me the impression that it is quite flimsy, just open the door from the inside or pull the boot lever....
i must comment on something, the ergonomics of forte really not that fantastic.
1) why can the door OPEN when driving after the door auto lock. Defeats the purpose of the auto lock.....
2) why cant the driver mirror auto up....
3) usually the driver lock will control all the door locks in the car but not for the forte. i unlock the driver door and ran over to the passenger door and found out that the passenger door is still lock. must run back to the driver door again to unlock in the rain some more.....

4)Lastly the cutch is a killer!!! bitting point so high...

if only they pay more attention to these small little things forte will be a much better car.