How's your drive feeling at high speed??

I am asking this question because I feel there is room for improvement to the Forte, when travelling at high speed, which I mean more thne 130km/h....

Was on the NSH and felt that the car is affected by cross wind, felt as if car "swerved" left or right momentarily... have to hold on to steering....

I seriously think the Forte is too high, definitely needs lowering......

Anyone experienced the same?

kapitan wrote:I am asking this question because I feel there is room for improvement to the Forte, when travelling at high speed, which I mean more thne 130km/h....

Was on the NSH and felt that the car is affected by cross wind, felt as if car "swerved" left or right momentarily... have to hold on to steering....

I seriously think the Forte is too high, definitely needs lowering......

Anyone experienced the same?

I feel the chassis is not rigid enough as I can sense some flexing of the body when it hits a bump at high speed.

Also the steering feel and response does not instill confidence when driving fast. MDPS isn't for sporty drives.

Forte is best suited for cruising at 90~100kmh. Less noise from road and very comfy.

At the end of it all, even with the low profile tires, Bk and sporty body shape and other go-faster add-ons, we must not forget that the Forte sedan is primarily a family sedan.

kapitan, you felt the same too?

i was about to ask cos i was up in malaysia last week. felt the steering swerved left and right when i reached 150km/h and it was in a non-windy area. before that it was raining and i could see trees swaying hard, so i expected the strong crosswind. but when i was on a clear stretch of road, the steering was not firm at all, even with the 17" tyres.

possible to tighten the electronic steering? i thought it should get firmer at high speed.

Maybe its the cross wind, maybe tires need change, maybe needs lowering, maybe this .. maybe that, but one word of advice, for those not use to going above 130km/h, best to slow down, going at 110/120 km/h is very comfortable... and in rain, please stay at about 100 km/h or down to even 70km/h...... skidding on the NSH will probably be the last time you will drive......

I hope this thread won't end up in other forums saying that Forte is unstable at high speed.... btw, all highways in Korea have speed camera, and speed limit is at most 110 km/h.


hobbes, don't believe it has anything to do with the steering....

kapitan wrote:I am asking this question because I feel there is room for improvement to the Forte, when travelling at high speed, which I mean more thne 130km/h....

Was on the NSH and felt that the car is affected by cross wind, felt as if car "swerved" left or right momentarily... have to hold on to steering....

I seriously think the Forte is too high, definitely needs lowering......

Anyone experienced the same?

u need some bars!!

tish wrote:

kapitan wrote:I am asking this question because I feel there is room for improvement to the Forte, when travelling at high speed, which I mean more thne 130km/h....

Was on the NSH and felt that the car is affected by cross wind, felt as if car "swerved" left or right momentarily... have to hold on to steering....

I seriously think the Forte is too high, definitely needs lowering......

Anyone experienced the same?

u need some bars!!

Bars with whiskey or strut bar??

Well, looks like I will be getting one soon, before my next drive up to Muar...

this is a concern for those who are not use to the light steering wheel (like me). Did anyone check with KIA svc guy if the MDPS can be adjusted?

Camber the front wheels.

Steering will feel heavier and more responsive + Cornering will improve.
Although tyre wear will be slightly faster.

but i tot the fast we go, the electronic steering will stiffen ?

balonglong_1979 wrote:Camber the front wheels.

Steering will feel heavier and more responsive + Cornering will improve.
Although tyre wear will be slightly faster.

I thought all wheels have camber.

balonglong_1979 wrote:Camber the front wheels.

Steering will feel heavier and more responsive + Cornering will improve.
Although tyre wear will be slightly faster.

I thought all wheels have camber.

Hope this link helps

http://e-revmotorsports.com.sg/Ultra%20Racing%20Home%20Page.htm

After reading it and you will know why tiny and me are so into Ultra Racing product even though they are Made in Msia. FYI we preferred UR more than ORG Forte Strutbar..

UR still developing those bars for forte.. hopefully they will able to produce real soon and we can start GB for it..

That's too many bars liao! Overkill a family sedan leh!

for me.. I'm going for adjustable strutbar...

haha fortec.. take the bar which suits u.. not build everything.. if build all is just like RALLY car already.. Imagine Forte go for rally.. hmm..

keigo wrote:for me.. I'm going for adjustable strutbar...

bro, any pic ?

muff wrote:

keigo wrote:for me.. I'm going for adjustable strutbar...

bro, any pic ?

Err currently don't have... my fren show me his.. and he will be bringing me to his workshop to mod my forte once I run in..

but will a strut bar help in cruising? in cornering i know it certainly adds stability, but for highway driving, will it make a difference?

anyone has insights on this?

Depends on which strut bar. Front suspension strut, front lower tie bar, mid body tie bar, rear suspension strut, rear lower tie bar. Of course add all will increase stiffness tremendously, but at silly cost and alot of added weight.

actually my fren when test drive the forte, he told me just add front strut bar will do... should be more then enough for cornering...

imagine when we test drive we trying 80km cornering... lolz.. my SE scare will holding on to the handler...

Im nt sure about the SX steering but for me my EX hydraulic steering wheel feels quite stable even at ard 110km/h.

Mayb its bcoz of my 225/40R17 tyres also, can any EX owner cfm this? Anyway mine is still stock, no strut bar installed.

melburn wrote:Im nt sure about the SX steering but for me my EX hydraulic steering wheel feels quite stable even at ard 110km/h.

Mayb its bcoz of my 225/40R17 tyres also, can any EX owner cfm this? Anyway mine is still stock, no strut bar installed.

Mine using 215/50/R17, travelling even at 120km/h also still stable..also no strut bar installed..

this "crosswind effect" affects all cars. the lighter the car, the more significant the effect (car like swerving)

just overtake a lorry or bus at e.g. 120kmh on the NSHW. you will feel it immediately. (faster will feel even stronger effect)

it's nothing to be concerned about really.

The effect is even more strong if the lorry is coming from the opposite direction when both are traveling at high speed.

Terrier wrote:haha fortec.. take the bar which suits u.. not build everything.. if build all is just like RALLY car already.. Imagine Forte go for rally.. hmm..

I am happy with a chocolate bar liao ^^.

tish wrote:but i tot the fast we go, the electronic steering will stiffen ?

U think honda CBR 1000 Electronic Steering damper ah?

bo la....
Strut bar should be good
Coupling with lowering kit....

Adds weight and kills ya FC more..but if u hardcore tourer..... it'll do u some good.

Besides the weight, speed and shape of the car, the prevailing wind speed and direction is an important part that causes the crosswind effect. Even when I was driving an MPV with 6 people inside with luggage, I could also feel the crosswind effect when travelling at 130kmh on NSH.

melburn, we got the same set of wheels!

melburn wrote:Im nt sure about the SX steering but for me my EX hydraulic steering wheel feels quite stable even at ard 110km/h.

Mayb its bcoz of my 225/40R17 tyres also, can any EX owner cfm this? Anyway mine is still stock, no strut bar installed.

look like stock tyre cannot run more then 100km/h

balonglong_1979 wrote:this "crosswind effect" affects all cars. the lighter the car, the more significant the effect (car like swerving)

just overtake a lorry or bus at e.g. 120kmh on the NSHW. you will feel it immediately. (faster will feel even stronger effect)

it's nothing to be concerned about really.

hmmm bros just to comfirm this cos the "crosswind" is cos by wind blowing about 90 degrees to ur direction of travel. overtaking a lorry is not crosswind in effect but air turbulance. pai seh bro correct u abit. if u are observiant enough u will see NSW some part got wind sock 1.. these are dangerous crosswind area cos by terrain differential.. becareful cos cross wind can in some point flip ur car if ur travelling too fast and ur car is too light..

i using 215 50 R17 with strut bar. tried 140.. the car feels floating. steering is rigid but very sensitive. well overall the car is too light and high to travel at that speed, maybe after lowering the car it will handle high speed better.

Terrier wrote:haha fortec.. take the bar which suits u.. not build everything.. if build all is just like RALLY car already.. Imagine Forte go for rally.. hmm..

Forte did go for rally liao..

http://www.ceratoforte.forumotion.com/relax-chit-chat-corner-f4/our-forte-in-rally-mobil-santiago-t556.htm

i think if @ high speed (more than 130kmh) and strong crosswind condition.. most jap/kr cars will tend to sway.. hence with strut bars, wider tyres, lowering body etc will definitely improve the condition.. but i really hope this is the case and not some inherent fault in forte's MDPS.. jus my 2c worth

Terrier wrote:Hope this link helps

http://e-revmotorsports.com.sg/Ultra%20Racing%20Home%20Page.htm

After reading it and you will know why tiny and me are so into Ultra Racing product even though they are Made in Msia. FYI we preferred UR more than ORG Forte Strutbar..

UR still developing those bars for forte.. hopefully they will able to produce real soon and we can start GB for it..

Im in for UR bars!!

Yah.. UR struct bars look more convincing and sturdy.. wonder wats the damage like.. btw as i have not get my ride yet.. u guys think anti roll bar necessary for forte?

hmmm tiny seems like UR BARS are getting popular.. maybe can arrrange a group buy soon? =)

Not my bar lah..it's not like i produce them. I am beginning to agree that the car does feel abit high at the curves around the ECP by the IR project. Hmm..but without the bodykit installed yet, I'm quite worried that a 20-30mm height drop from lowering springs might be too much for the car..

balonglong_1979 wrote:this "crosswind effect" affects all cars. the lighter the car, the more significant the effect (car like swerving)

just overtake a lorry or bus at e.g. 120kmh on the NSHW. you will feel it immediately. (faster will feel even stronger effect)

it's nothing to be concerned about really.

agree with bro balonglong on "crosswind effect".....once drove a Toyota MPV along coastline in Aust at about 110 kmh and I can remember that for the vehicle to move straight I actually got to turn steering wheel at almost 90 degree (one hand at 11 o'clock and the other hand at 5 o'clock position)....... just to keep it going straight but thinking back i really should have just slow down instead........

melburn wrote:Im nt sure about the SX steering but for me my EX hydraulic steering wheel feels quite stable even at ard 110km/h.

Mayb its bcoz of my 225/40R17 tyres also, can any EX owner cfm this? Anyway mine is still stock, no strut bar installed.

I tried going about 120km/hr after collecting the car 3 weeks ago, which was on stock kumho 215/45/R17. I did see the difference after changing the tyres to goodyear 225/45/R17 4 hrs later, and running on the same speed. I do believe the profile and the road grip of the tyres do play a part. I do occasionally go up to 120km/hr on Singapore roads and have to say that road handling is stable. 1.26 tonnes for our car is fairly weighty to provide stability, and it's not far away from the Golf MK 6 with a weight of 1.28 tonnes.

IMO, having pushed this car hard on a number of occasions, it just doesn't give me the confidence to push it any further..........but this is the best value car to bring you from point A to B.......remember that we only paid for a family sedan......

BTW I'm riding on 16" Ex manual.....

but you can also improve the ride at high speed by adding on those after market products that will enhance your ride like better rim & tyres, filters, bars, coils, etc.....

ozzie75 wrote:

melburn wrote:Im nt sure about the SX steering but for me my EX hydraulic steering wheel feels quite stable even at ard 110km/h.

Mayb its bcoz of my 225/40R17 tyres also, can any EX owner cfm this? Anyway mine is still stock, no strut bar installed.

I tried going about 120km/hr after collecting the car 3 weeks ago, which was on stock kumho 215/45/R17. I did see the difference after changing the tyres to goodyear 225/45/R17 4 hrs later, and running on the same speed. I do believe the profile and the road grip of the tyres do play a part. I do occasionally go up to 120km/hr on Singapore roads and have to say that road handling is stable. 1.26 tonnes for our car is fairly weighty to provide stability, and it's not far away from the Golf MK 6 with a weight of 1.28 tonnes.

not sure about cars.. but when i change bike tyre, recommend to ride normally for 300km for new tyre to run in and wear off the wax surface before doing cornerings... will result to no grip n skid...

Yesterday went to Melaka for one day trip and tested forte (SX Manual) at 160km/hrs speed for less than 30sec and feel the car is light so switch back to 130-140km/hrs and the tyres is noisy and particular at some road surface even more noisy. Those malaysia car are hell rider even i drove at 140-150km/hrs also must give way to them i think they drove at more than 160km/hrs.

So when you are at right lane better check rear mirror every 10 sec and sometimes forgot to check those hell rider will drove untill going to torch your backside.

At certain area have to keep to road limit becos there are blood sucker hinding behind the tree wth speed camera. I saw one SG EVO kena park at road side when i passby the police road block/check area when going toward Melaka.

Before going back to SG from Melaka went to Muar and Batu Pahat for local and seafood. Total travel distant is 500km.

If you have notice, once you cross the border from Johor into Melaka, the road noise level increases, this is because of the road surface..... between Johor and Selanger, the roads are bitumen, while Melaka is using a different road surface, it is concrete.... think same for state of Perak...

The issue for me is that I like to drive on the right lane on the NSE between Johore and Melaka because the right lane is much smoother than the left as the left have more potholes and wear and tear...probably from those heavy vehicles like lorries. But agreed have to check rear mirror and avoid "quarrelling" with the local speedsters. We are visitors mah..

currently driving a 1.6L EX(A). done 900km only.

During normal driving, my car tends to sway left when i let go of steering wheel.
When driving around 90 Kmph, my steering wheels starts vibrating.

Anyone got the same as above?

1 thing i like abt this car is thatwhen im driving around 100-110, it feels much better than honda civic. It feels more stable whereas civic tends to make me feel like its floating.

i used to have the swaying to the left problem... but was rectified during my first servicing...

My mum was particular with me driving @ high speeds. But when in msia, i hit 160 on North-South Highway, mum didnt complain or asked me to slow down. She didnt felt anything, while, me, the driver, SHIOK! speeding on the roads. Car noisy abit but probably because of the wind resistance.

alex86 wrote:currently driving a 1.6L EX(A). done 900km only.

During normal driving, my car tends to sway left when i let go of steering wheel.
When driving around 90 Kmph, my steering wheels starts vibrating.

Anyone got the same as above?

1 thing i like abt this car is thatwhen im driving around 100-110, it feels much better than honda civic. It feels more stable whereas civic tends to make me feel like its floating.

Go tyre shop check blancing .

Zeed wrote:My mum was particular with me driving @ high speeds. But when in msia, i hit 160 on North-South Highway, mum didnt complain or asked me to slow down. She didnt felt anything, while, me, the driver, SHIOK! speeding on the roads. Car noisy abit but probably because of the wind resistance.

your mum too stunned to talk liao hahha