Fuel Consumption

tish wrote:Still waiting more 2 liter cars to quote also !! Seems like not much 2 liters around here...

Maybe 2 litres , ppl are looking at power not so much on FC.......

Fortec wrote:When u do redline at gear 4 u prolly be like 170-180km/h liao..so I think should be quite safe.

let me side track this a little..... before u all atempt to speed, please check the speed rating for ur tyre....

eg: i think rating RZ is 300km/hr and above.

so dont go beyond the rating, tyre cannot take it

thrillman wrote:

tish wrote:Still waiting more 2 liter cars to quote also !! Seems like not much 2 liters around here...

Maybe 2 litres , ppl are looking at power not so much on FC.......

can afford 2L,, sure can afford FC liao....

Can affort 2L but occassionally must think about FC also. Not say 2L means must open throttle all the way mah... its to have a more effortlessly cruising..

no prob... 2L can still open throttle without worrying bout fc coz can always go jb pump.. super cheapz

Juz@kid wrote:no prob... 2L can still open throttle without worrying bout fc coz can always go jb pump.. super cheapz

but go JB still must 3/4 tank, sianz!! bike no need

7.4L/100km yesterday, this morning shoot up to 8.9L/100km with the rain and jams at punggol exit TPE and upper changi north exit...

[quote="Fortec"]7.4L/100km yesterday, this morning shoot up to 8.9L/100km with the rain and jams at punggol exit TPE and upper changi north exit...[/quote

Mine also like tat.... Jam only always got shoot up... express way always very low 1

The condition of Singapore road should be considered 95% city roads... what expressways we talking about, especially those who drive on ECP, PIE, KPE, CTE or whatever E, with the start stop start stop traffic on those Es, they should be considered as city driving...

How often do you actually can be driving on an expressway non stop at constant speed for at least half hour.... probably none if you are driving on our Es... by the time half hour is up, we are at the end of the E anyway....

kapitan wrote:How often do you actually can be driving on an expressway non stop at constant speed for at least half hour.... probably none if you are driving on our Es... by the time half hour is up, we are at the end of the E anyway....

Used to do tha on mysia highway n 2nd link

Thats y S'porean love 2nd link so much!!

up FC up Speed down petrol cash!!

[quote="luvxiaobeng"]

Fortec wrote:7.4L/100km yesterday, this morning shoot up to 8.9L/100km with the rain and jams at punggol exit TPE and upper changi north exit...[/quote

Mine also like tat.... Jam only always got shoot up... express way always very low 1

Only manage to get 7l - 9l per 100km for the first half of the tank.. Subsequently the avg drops to 10.1l/100km in the end..

Mine's a 1.6SX Auto/ pumping Shell 95. After monitoring for the past 3 full tank, the avg F/C is about 9.72km / l ... This seems bad to me as I dun think I'm a heavy footer.. Anyone having the same results? hope this will get better..
.. if not..

[quote="evibot"]

luvxiaobeng wrote:

Fortec wrote:7.4L/100km yesterday, this morning shoot up to 8.9L/100km with the rain and jams at punggol exit TPE and upper changi north exit...[/quote

Mine also like tat.... Jam only always got shoot up... express way always very low 1

Only manage to get 7l - 9l per 100km for the first half of the tank.. Subsequently the avg drops to 10.1l/100km in the end..

Mine's a 1.6SX Auto/ pumping Shell 95. After monitoring for the past 3 full tank, the avg F/C is about 9.72km / l ... This seems bad to me as I dun think I'm a heavy footer.. Anyone having the same results? hope this will get better..
.. if not..

running in is normal, FC will improve gradually...don't be too stress over it, enjoy yr new ride...

Want to share this article. Some of you might have seen it before:

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/writeup.php?AID=85

From what I've read in thie thread, Shell 95 seems to give better FC. Anyone tried other brands like Esso / Caltex?

Disclaimer:
This is not scientifically proven...
result might varies from different vehicles...
based on what i tested in not a controlled condition...
based on Ron97(malaysia)...
ranking of good FC tested on YZFR1-03
1st caltex, joint 2nd shell and esso, 3rd Petronas...
What i read in an article that i cant recalled is that ron92 give better mileage compared to ron 95, and ron 95 is better than ron98.
performance wise is the opposite... IMHO

I get best FC with shell 98 with my previous ride. I tried SPC 98 for some time then pump back shell 98....man it felt like I pumped V power, and that was the last time I tried SPC... btw I got the worst mileage with it. Can imagine I never complained when I pump shell 95.

My hubby has got a friend workin in Shell (the major island where the mix the petrol etc not the kiosk) He was saying V Power is actually 98 + ingredient X n was actually saying Caltex 98 is betta then V power.... So if you are considering 98 try caltex first ya... coz got techron mah.... clean your engine....

Hmm...caltex95 can clean engine or not, i'm using 95

luvxiaobeng wrote:My hubby has got a friend workin in Shell (the major island where the mix the petrol etc not the kiosk) He was saying V Power is actually 98 + ingredient X n was actually saying Caltex 98 is betta then V power.... So if you are considering 98 try caltex first ya... coz got techron mah.... clean your engine....

thumbs up for caltex, my all time favorite!!

Update on FC with the new rims on.

Average reading is 6.7l/100km these 2 days

Petrol used Esso 5000 (coz it's just opposite the road), will try the cheaper one next round to see any difference.

Fortec wrote:Update on FC with the new rims on.

Average reading is 6.7l/100km these 2 days

Petrol used Esso 5000 (coz it's just opposite the road), will try the cheaper one next round to see any difference.

That's pretty good FC achieved...u pumped 230 for the tires?

Fortec wrote:Update on FC with the new rims on.

Average reading is 6.7l/100km these 2 days

Petrol used Esso 5000 (coz it's just opposite the road), will try the cheaper one next round to see any difference.

manual?

yes it's a manual

nothing wrote:

Fortec wrote:Update on FC with the new rims on.

Average reading is 6.7l/100km these 2 days

Petrol used Esso 5000 (coz it's just opposite the road), will try the cheaper one next round to see any difference.

That's pretty good FC achieved...u pumped 230 for the tires?

I haven't check the tires pressure yet...good thing u bring this up...will update when I get down to it.

Fortec wrote:Update on FC with the new rims on.

Average reading is 6.7l/100km these 2 days

Petrol used Esso 5000 (coz it's just opposite the road), will try the cheaper one next round to see any difference.

Wah Fortec your FC is very good.... mine never ego below 7l/100km....

Fortec wrote:Update on FC with the new rims on.

Average reading is 6.7l/100km these 2 days

Petrol used Esso 5000 (coz it's just opposite the road), will try the cheaper one next round to see any difference.

must compare for 2 rounds, else i think wont see much difference... someore there is a reserve of 3-5l of previous fuel

1.6 SX Auto with original 17" rims (Goodyear LS2000 tyres)
50-60% highway & 40-50% city
Spare tyre remained in boot
Other extra boot weight est. 15 Kg (tools, jumper cables, water etc.)

Fuel used ESSO 5000

Collected on 27 Mar & top up to full tank
1) Drove till "low fuel"warning light comes on to test "warning system"
Top up 46L to full tank 485 KM travelled
(10.54 KM/L)
2) Top up 38.5L to full tank 441 Km travelled
(11.5 KM/L)
3) Top up 38L to full tank 409 Km travelled
(10.76 KM/L)
4) Went overseas for 2 weeks (car very lightly used)
5) Top up 36L to full tank 368 KM travelled
(10.22 KM/L)

Current ODO reading abt 1990 KM

nice info!

so far i see all the auto FC is quite bad...

Guess not many master the art of feather foot....

I used to drive a matrix (bro owner). I was conditioned in to a pussy driver....
Car drive on left middle lane, bike middle and right lane.....
I wonder wat is the BEST FC that a
1.6 EX M
1.6 EX A
1.6 SX M
1.6 SX A
2.0 SX M
2.0 SX A

I'm an NSF, go jurong camp morning no jam 5.9l/100km 70% Highway.

Come back jam 7.3l/100km.

morning happy like hell come back eye big big.

btw my nearest entrance to aye is lower delta so ard 18km of travel

Wah, NSF own car liao..envy!

5.9l/100km power !! that's almost close to 17km/l woohoo!

I think a more realistic value would be around 7.5-8.5l/100km for day to day driving.

Btw, are you an ARSENAL fan, Arshavin?

Fortec wrote:Wah, NSF own car liao..envy!

5.9l/100km power !! that's almost close to 17km/l woohoo!

I think a more realistic value would be around 7.5-8.5l/100km for day to day driving.

Btw, are you an ARSENAL fan, Arshavin?

Yea I am a gooner... as for car, have to balance part time studies and camp, bo pian, if got no ns maybe i alr can afford a Civic alr =X

if im bill gate.. maybe i can afford a lambo aldy too ^^

gravin wrote:visited the showroom on Sat. SE told me 1.6EX FC is 13-14km/L. And 1.6SX FC is 11-12km/L.

My Forte 1.6 EX Auto on 15" Rim. Carry 130kgs load n FC careful driving.
At 1251kgs FC is Good n shld get better after few weeks run-in!
Anything above 13km/L is a Gooooooooooooood.
1st 459km used 37.09Litres or 12.38km/Litre from 24 Apr - 01 May 2009...

This is better than my previous 1.4 Chevy Auto @ 12km/L...

Arshavin wrote:

Fortec wrote:Wah, NSF own car liao..envy!

5.9l/100km power !! that's almost close to 17km/l woohoo!

I think a more realistic value would be around 7.5-8.5l/100km for day to day driving.

Btw, are you an ARSENAL fan, Arshavin?

Yea I am a gooner... as for car, have to balance part time studies and camp, bo pian, if got no ns maybe i alr can afford a Civic alr =X

NSF and already owned car...u good lah.... 8)

I work like mad to afford one cerato nia, HQ clerk at my camp got one porsche canyenne. that one more envy sia..

Anyway I realise after run in engine becoming noisier, anyone experiencing this?

after run-in, think your right foot getting heavier.....

Have you tried hard acceleration or travelled at high speed for a long period before ? if so, then it is normal.

Otherwise, it is because the grade of your engine oil was changed recently? to lower viscosity oil?

Have you changed your tires or upsized ur rim recently ?

for EX, i recommend that you go install the bonnet insulation.....or another way if you want to save $ you can also increase the volume of your sound system both equally effective....

muff wrote:after run-in, think your right foot getting heavier.....

OT a bit. what is run-in?

KnGp wrote:

muff wrote:after run-in, think your right foot getting heavier.....

OT a bit. what is run-in?

You got to run to your car, not walk to your car. hehe....just joking.
Engine run-in means don't ram your new engine adove 3000rpm,after your
1st 1000km oil change than ram ram...

nocash wrote:You got to run to your car, not walk to your car. hehe....just joking.
Engine run-in means don't ram your new engine adove 3000rpm,after your
1st 1000km oil change than ram ram...

oh i see i see.. thanks for enlightening me.

Hi guys, I just registered in this forum (cuz somehow i couldn't log into sgkiaclub anymore..*shrug*)

Anyway I'm awaiting my forte hopefully in late june. I'm currently driving a vios so the FC of the new car is a big concern to me.

Anyway from my experience these are a few things that really make a difference to FC, I do these regularly and I get 16km+/l on my manual vios.

- aircon. Set the climate control or aircon 'coldness dial' to the minimum possible for you comfort, especially if u are driving alone. Just turn up the fan speed. The fan speed uses electricity which is being generated by the alternator no matter what, but the aircon compressor loads the engine whenever it is turned on, so by turning the temp from 18degree to 25degree while increasing fan speed, u can easily save alot. (I get an extra 80km+ out of 40liter tankful from my civic last time just from this change)

- maintain proper tire pressure. I check my tires every 2 tankfuls, especially the front tires as they hold more load and are the drive tires.

- Don't carry unnecessary stuff. How much more tired would u be if u carried a big heavy bag everyday?

- Solar film. The higher the heat rejection the better. My vios aircon setting doesn't have to be so cold after I installed good solar film, I calculated it got me an extra half km/litre from it.

I don't find better grades of petrol to improve FC. I get the same FC on my vios no matter if it's 92,95,98. I do agree that the better grades of petrol have some additives to clean your engine. Higher octane levels actually make it harder to burn, so highly tuned engines won't pre-detonate so easily. If your car isn't a highly tuned ferrari or STI WRX, there's no real improvement from using a higher grade of petrol.

Just my 2 cents.

Welcome tiny, you so tiny and yet knows alot hehe...
Anyway thanks for your info...

good points tiny.. which both a/c and tire pressure can helps to save petrol.. another point is to prevent idling, idling your car burn your petrol unnecessary.

Anyway tiny, dont expect forte to save as much as your vios. Vios is nature are built to be FC saver if really want to compare why dont compare vios and honda fit/jazz which save the most fc.

Just love your forte with an average of 11-12L/km

KnGp wrote:

nocash wrote:You got to run to your car, not walk to your car. hehe....just joking.
Engine run-in means don't ram your new engine adove 3000rpm,after your
1st 1000km oil change than ram ram...

oh i see i see.. thanks for enlightening me.

KnGp, running in the engine basically means when a new engine is made, there are alot of moving points in the engine compartment, so when u run in, u are shaping out the moving points so they will move smoothly after the run in period. Usually he initial run-ins there should be some small bits being shave off so its best to change the first engine oil in 1000km as stated in the manual. But the purpose of engine oil is only for lubricating and cooling purpose

more or less its like that lah, but if someone can explain better , please advise

How to break in an engine

I have read this couple of years ago. Pretty informative.
Well try not to do Hard run-in or break-in so to say.
Other methods can be tried
read the most common one that most pp do and that is on the streets

convert the miles to KM by multiplying 1.6 you know the rough gauge

2day i drove all the way till the needle go a bit below the last line ....pumped 48 litres...fyi

scared that no enuff petrol..

wats your milege?
Without tat also cant cal the FC km/L

Anyway most of the cars should have 10L reserve..... so don worry..... as long as u know ur FC.... don wack ur car (drive calmly & gently~80km/hr max) after the reserve light on... should comfy to go from Pasir Ris to Tuas or Vice Versa before u find a Petrol station.

Spec wise, forte's fuel tank capacity is 53L.
Low fuel warning light lights up 46L-47L. So you will have about 5L-6L of petrol before your tank really dries up. Taking average FC of 10km/L as a guide, worst case you will have 50km to find the nearest petrol station to fill up. In Singapore, it should not be a problem but when travelling to Malaysia, it's something to take note of.