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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 2:41 pm

Today dont know what bad day...

Morning before work find my office access card missing....

Then driving at my home carpark to work.. the in front car make a stop and dont know what that lady want to do.. moving straight then make a stop and reverse to left also do it half way and then stop and continue moving straight again.

Then end up while waiting for the in front car to perform whatever pattern my behind bamp by another car and end up my bumper is slightly damage but the other car got a bigger damage.
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Post by ctoh 24th July 2009, 2:53 pm

Sorry to hear this...

Hope its not too bad, maybe can try using dry-ice.

Did you claim $$$ from the car that bang yours?
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Post by powerteo 24th July 2009, 2:56 pm

Claim from the other party that bang u!! Clear cut it's the their fault!
but time/leave wastage on getting the car repair....

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Post by kysoong 24th July 2009, 3:01 pm

xin tong... Sad
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Post by thaliamei 24th July 2009, 3:08 pm

The careless one should pay you. Heart pain for you.....
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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 3:11 pm

Ya.. just back from a trip to C&C which I have done the paper work to make insurance claim.

But the cork C&C when I told them the car number, their system say this number is not valid... I almost faint...

so back office I quickly go to onemotoring to do a check and confirm the car is register lor.

So call them back and told them about it. Now is only wait for the process, paper work and repair.

But ok la at least my car still about to go anywhere and the damage you it not very visible
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Post by nothing 24th July 2009, 3:28 pm

must check whether boot can open properly...
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Post by yngwie 24th July 2009, 3:30 pm

Sorry to hear about that. hope your issue can resolve asap.

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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 3:46 pm

nothing wrote:must check whether boot can open properly...

Ya boot can open properly... only bumper is slightly damage.
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Post by kysoong 24th July 2009, 4:25 pm

xin tong, yet so much hassel due to negligence of others... u must hv a bad day... but thank god it's friday!
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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 5:13 pm

well even more bad news...

C&C say that they cannot find what that car insurance company is cause their system still show in valid.

And they ask me go Sim Ming LTA to check on that car insurance pengz...

And now I cant claim against that car and I can't repair. If I want to repair it will be my own $$.....

super sianz.


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Post by FriesL 24th July 2009, 5:13 pm

yeah.. i think the lady in front should bear some responsibility too.. but heart pain for sure..

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Post by FriesL 24th July 2009, 5:14 pm

bro keigo.. heard quite alot of changes for insurance..
so now u cant claim others even when its their fault? is there a guidelines for this?

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Post by JuanST 24th July 2009, 5:27 pm

so how to put a positive spin.........

oooooo...

at least u can claim a first....first kiss...... Embarassed jk only.....
dun scold me pls..... bow

on the more somber side, third party is still effective.
the "no blame" insurance in not yet implemented or is it?


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Post by pessimizt 24th July 2009, 5:33 pm

pardon me but insurance claim is not call insurance company ?
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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 5:34 pm

Well I talk to AIG... and ask them so if let say C&C cannot find the other car insurance and can't claim against 3rd party claim so how...

AIG just say your outfront $$ is gone and claim depart will look at your case and see if it will affect your NCB or not.... pengz...

Then after more pressuring talk to them.. then AIG CSO say... AIG only protect you if other people want to claim against you or you damage the car yourself.

AIG will not be responsible for helping you fight case and seek claim from other.

All these seeking and claiming against 3rd party insurance claim will be done by the workshop....
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Post by FeiLeong 24th July 2009, 5:35 pm

Since claimed the other party insurance dun give face, just change the whole bumper to new wan..i know how u feel the moment ur car get molested by other. Sad
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Post by JuanST 24th July 2009, 6:17 pm

as a rule when it is 3rd party claim, CnC and AIG very reluctant to do....unless u have an agreement from the other party that they will pay...
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Post by Duser 24th July 2009, 6:25 pm

Hi keigo, Sorry to hear about the incident.Btw your insurance is not 1st party? Its weird that CnC unable to find the veh reg. Hope you settle the case.

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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 6:29 pm

ya anyway tonight going to NDP to log the case and also inform them that workshop claim cannot find the car insurance.
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Post by Fortec 24th July 2009, 6:37 pm

Should jio the butt humping guy for private settlement first, then after he pay u liao claim his insurance aha.
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Post by Fortec 24th July 2009, 6:37 pm

if that guy no insurance even more jialat him than u.
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Post by nocash 24th July 2009, 6:43 pm

keigo wrote:well even more bad news...

C&C say that they cannot find what that car insurance company is cause their system still show in valid.

And they ask me go Sim Ming LTA to check on that car insurance pengz...

And now I cant claim against that car and I can't repair. If I want to repair it will be my own $$.....

super sianz.

Sorry bro keigo to learn about that.
Since the car insurance company cannot be trace,can i asume that he/she is driving with an invalid insurance.i think is better to report to police or LTA .
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Post by nocash 24th July 2009, 6:48 pm

keigo wrote:ya anyway tonight going to NDP to log the case and also inform them that workshop claim cannot find the car insurance.

Why must go to attend National Day Parade in order to make claim?
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Post by FeiLeong 24th July 2009, 6:49 pm

nocash wrote:
keigo wrote:well even more bad news...

C&C say that they cannot find what that car insurance company is cause their system still show in valid.

And they ask me go Sim Ming LTA to check on that car insurance pengz...

And now I cant claim against that car and I can't repair. If I want to repair it will be my own $$.....

super sianz.

Sorry bro keigo to learn about that.
Since the car insurance company cannot be trace,can i asume that he/she is driving with an invalid insurance.i think is better to report to police or LTA .

Yes fully agreed with bro nocash, to play safe than sorry.. Rolling Eyes
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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 6:50 pm

Anyway I just go onemotoring

https://vrl.lta.gov.sg/lta/vrl/action/pubfunc?ID=EnquireVehInsParticulars

and find that they can able to provide Enquire Vehicle Insurance Particulars

So already make payment and go ahead.. but stupid onemotoring after make payment the webpage hang there.. end up I had to call their hotline and she inform me they will send me the information latest by Monday...

What a weekend...
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Post by JuanST 24th July 2009, 6:54 pm

keigo,

if u cannot claim insurance, better get a qoute first on how much is the damage before u claim against ur insurance.

1 claim against ur own insurance they remove 20 to 30% NCD.....
then they increase ur excess money. so compute first and see how....

insurance premuim is a factor of age , ncd and driving exp...
the se have a table of amounts.... maybe can help compute...

check which is less expensive in the long run...
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Post by nocash 24th July 2009, 7:00 pm

keigo wrote:Anyway I just go onemotoring

https://vrl.lta.gov.sg/lta/vrl/action/pubfunc?ID=EnquireVehInsParticulars

and find that they can able to provide Enquire Vehicle Insurance Particulars

So already make payment and go ahead.. but stupid onemotoring after make payment the webpage hang there.. end up I had to call their hotline and she inform me they will send me the information latest by Monday...

What a weekend...

Oh bro, before any further can check with you the portion that dented can it be cover by body kit?
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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 7:00 pm

juansobrangtamad wrote:keigo,

if u cannot claim insurance, better get a qoute first on how much is the damage before u claim against ur insurance.

1 claim against ur own insurance they remove 20 to 30% NCD.....
then they increase ur excess money. so compute first and see how....

insurance premuim is a factor of age , ncd and driving exp...
the se have a table of amounts.... maybe can help compute...

check which is less expensive in the long run...

Well spoken to AIG, if come to the worst case cannot make claim... they will also look at my report and then decide if it will affect my NCB or not. But I think my case is a sure win case so think NCB will not be affect just that I try to prevent paying any $$
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Post by Duser 24th July 2009, 7:01 pm

Sometimes situation like this if only we have a car camera front and back...

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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 7:02 pm

nocash wrote:
keigo wrote:Anyway I just go onemotoring

https://vrl.lta.gov.sg/lta/vrl/action/pubfunc?ID=EnquireVehInsParticulars

and find that they can able to provide Enquire Vehicle Insurance Particulars

So already make payment and go ahead.. but stupid onemotoring after make payment the webpage hang there.. end up I had to call their hotline and she inform me they will send me the information latest by Monday...

What a weekend...

Oh bro, before any further can check with you the portion that dented can it be cover by body kit?

Body Kit does not cover the bottom back side right...
also there is a pop up at the booth area... plus the backbone metal had move up abit from it orginal position.
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Post by keigo 24th July 2009, 7:03 pm

Duser wrote:Sometimes situation like this if only we have a car camera front and back...

well now is not about losing the case.. it is about cant even find the other car insurance and how to claim against it...
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Post by Duser 24th July 2009, 7:05 pm

If you have the car insurance details and video footage...its confirm snap shot! Hope you get the car insurance details.

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Post by Juz@kid 24th July 2009, 7:49 pm

alamak bro.... sori to hear ur sad friday story...

watever it is, make sure u claim every single cent coz its totaly not ur fault. be it e S kizzing, ins claiming n repairing...
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Post by jl1500k 24th July 2009, 8:55 pm

Did you take picture of both car? Is important cos sometimes other party play trick.

Your bumper is slightly damage but the other car got a bigger damage which mean the forte backside is quite strong huh.
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Post by lukester 24th July 2009, 9:05 pm

aiyoh.. sorry to hear that from you bro.

you should take pic... don't claim from ur own AIG la, not worth it one end of day.

anyway, what u shld do is to take pic first, ask for the other party's license and NRIC, insurance paper, phone number. at least the guy cannot run or deny. Its quite SOP i heard, someone told me before but never want to try.

did u have any of those?
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Post by lukester 24th July 2009, 9:07 pm

jl1500k wrote:Did you take picture of both car? Is important cos sometimes other party play trick.

Your bumper is slightly damage but the other car got a bigger damage which mean the forte backside is quite strong huh.

yeah, i think it is by the sound of it.
what car the guy driving? he lives ur area? if es, wait for him ard there and leave a note or something, make him contact u.
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Post by fangel 24th July 2009, 9:12 pm

yes, i've heard of this remark before also, saying forte body is quite strong. my uncle's colleague drives a forte and got into a bang-up but did not sustain much damage.

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Post by greatgazoo 25th July 2009, 12:56 am

Yes, agree with you that Forte body really quite strong also.
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Post by tish 25th July 2009, 2:12 am

wow bro keigo , sorry to hear such a thing happen to u man..... somemore insurance got problem... hope u get ur problem solve asap ...
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Post by Fortec 25th July 2009, 2:28 am

Bro, feel for u man, hope u got the particulars of that goondu.

Might as well add the twin exhausts also ^^.
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Post by oscar33 25th July 2009, 1:34 pm

Bro, from wat i see urs is a sure win case. Shd be able to do 100% claim against the the other party. After u get the insur company of the other party, submit to CnC immediately for claim processing. I dun understand y CnC nt able to check the insur of the other party cos it is always available in the LTA website - maybe they jus dun wan to spend the $ fearing can't claim back from the other party. Last time i also kena backside before and the workshop (STAR Auto) done everything for me and there's no delay in the repair work while still processing the claim.

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Post by joepele 27th July 2009, 9:53 am

oscar33 wrote:Bro, from wat i see urs is a sure win case. Shd be able to do 100% claim against the the other party. After u get the insur company of the other party, submit to CnC immediately for claim processing. I dun understand y CnC nt able to check the insur of the other party cos it is always available in the LTA website - maybe they jus dun wan to spend the $ fearing can't claim back from the other party. Last time i also kena backside before and the workshop (STAR Auto) done everything for me and there's no delay in the repair work while still processing the claim.

The last time I had an accident, my mechanic also asked me to pop by to LTA to get the other guy's insurance details.

Think it's the current procedure ba, cos they'll also need the owner's particulars for paper work too.
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Post by keigo 27th July 2009, 10:01 am

Ya manage to get the other party insurance info.

Thank you everyone for your concern. Well I guess I'm the first to post on CnC insurance claim processing. So let see how mine goes and take this as a learning process and see if CnC is good enough or not.
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Post by lukester 27th July 2009, 10:04 am

NONONOOOOOOOOO...........

I dun want to learn this process, don't want to apply it.....
hahaha..

anyway, good thing u manage to get it settled.
good on you.
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Post by JuanST 27th July 2009, 10:13 am

bro keigo,

ehhhh... from experience, if u are doing 3rd party claim, they dont want to repair until they get an approval from the 3rd party... they always push for claim ur own, then refund thru 3rd party later... however if u do this, u may not get a refund on excess.....then maybe ... they might just increase ur next year's insurance since u made a "claim" against ur own.... so pls keep us updated what happens next.....
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Post by keigo 27th July 2009, 10:43 am

juansobrangtamad wrote:bro keigo,

ehhhh... from experience, if u are doing 3rd party claim, they dont want to repair until they get an approval from the 3rd party... they always push for claim ur own, then refund thru 3rd party later... however if u do this, u may not get a refund on excess.....then maybe ... they might just increase ur next year's insurance since u made a "claim" against ur own.... so pls keep us updated what happens next.....

Ya if thing go this way I will just go to harmony to get my repair done... which I dont think my repair can cost more then 300...

and why should I pay the up front $642 to AIG to get it repair.
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Post by nothing 27th July 2009, 11:57 am

Ya, can get it done at harmony, they have the paint facilities....can oven baked Very Happy
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Post by keigo 29th July 2009, 10:26 am

Well guess what.. C&C called me yesterday and inform me that another party make another statement and claim again me saying it is my fault instead.

So C&C advise me either accept 50/50 or look for witness or look for lawyer...

Win lor.. this is the kind of help C&C will provide... everything I have to settle myself.. and if I win the case or lose the case so long I do my repair there it is a win-win for them.

So piss off I tell C&C nvm I will settle it myself. So I ask them to email me the official report.

The afternoon I straight drive to harmony and told them about it. Straight away harmony told me no problem they will settle for me and win the case. I pass them the repair and they straight call the evaluator to come down to see my car and then start their repair today and I will be able to collect my car tomorrow noon.

If I were to wait for C&C think by next yr my car also have not get it repair.

So lesson learn, next time go C&C report the case then get the report and then go to harmony and they will do the rest for you.
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Post by JuanST 29th July 2009, 10:48 am

i feel ur frustration.... went thru this problem oso.... but i did not pursue since i will be changing car soon... i did not repair the car and will trade it in for the new forte...hehehehehe
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