My 3 weeks old Forte going for a facelift

Blacks wrote:

Bed wrote:

I think everybody has different style of driving. Also everybody thinks they drive correctly. When different styles meet, usually one will curse and swear at each other. I hate aggressive drivers on the road. I avoid over cautious drivers too. These are drivers which are fairly unpredictable. But if you were to ask them, they will arguably say they are right. I speed, but there are a few principles I keep in my mind. Never tail-gate, always check blind spot and then signal and check then filter and never race with another car.

Before my chain collision, there's an Avante who keeps filtering in and out of lane 1. Everytime when he filters back to lane 1, he's no where further but in front of me only. Then he will follow bumper-to-bumper with the car in front. There's twice I wanted to close the gap with the front car and he squeezes in. Thinking back, I think I am emotionally affected and I keep around 1 1/2 car distance only. Too bad he exited at Thomson Rd. If not I will crash onto him but I also feel "SONG"! To me this Avante driver is too aggressive and inconsiderate. But I think he will still think he is right.

My previous accident, I saw the Camry is keeping 3 to 4 cars distance from the front car moving around 80 to 90 km/hr on lane 1. I thought he would have more than enough space to slow down if there's a jam. I keep only around 1 car distance. When the front car brakes, this Camry driver immediately jam brake. To him, he thinks he is right to jam brake and I am following him too closely.

I think from my last 2 accidents, there's 1 common error I committed. I didn't keep a safe distance. So nowadays I keep 2 to 4 cars distance and when the cars in front brake, I will immediately step on the brake and keep mininum 2 cars distance until the front car stops then I close the gap.

If you attend the "Basic Defensive Driving Course" you will definitely physically understand that keeping at 3 to 4 car length for speed 80kph will need very hard braking.
In this course We jammed brake at speed 60kph, it skidded 22 metres to attain FULL STOP.

In physics calculation in relation to road friction, tire grip plus driver reaction. If include more drivers.. chain reaction=chain accident. I Think you'll keep 10 cars length at 80Kph for a softer and comfortable stop.

aural wrote:

Bed wrote:

aural wrote:

Siaoster wrote:

Bed wrote:I think this coming week My Forte will be discharging from "ward". I am very excited in waiting to receive her. It's like I am collecting her at day 1.....

haha congrats ! brand new feel issint haa

Good to hear that. coming to MU?

Thanks Too shy to MU.

I also shy, let's go then wont so shy

liplip wrote:10 car lengths? That is like 45 metres leh... Although I do maintain such driving distances, but only when driving at 100-110km/h with full family on board.

So perhaps it depends on situation bah... need full stop will need more distance, and considered how Singapore "expressway" likes to come to complete halts, we should educate people to keep further distances. Else most Singaporean cars think I uncle and drive too slow, and treat 2 car lengths as chance for him to cut my lane... sigh...

There was one day on SLE (real expressway), not even a crash but just have police light flashing and the police pulled over a van. The goondus slowed to a complete halt to see see, so this is another Singaporean problem need to fix... their desire to find 4 numbers.

KingJerry wrote:Wah, i thought van can't be on lane 1 only? Even lane 2 also cannot uh?

Bed wrote:

KingJerry wrote:Wah, i thought van can't be on lane 1 only? Even lane 2 also cannot uh?

Lane 2 is for slow moving cars to overtake only. When they overtook, they should move back to lane 3. I think lane 1 also applies the same rule. So whenever I see TP, I will Guai Guai shift to lane 2. If I am not wrong, motorcycles are also considered slow moving vehicles. They should only use lane 1 to overtake. But nowadays, I see lorries, vans, pickups, trucks and motorcycles occupy lane 1 like they own it......

JuanST wrote:

Bed wrote:

KingJerry wrote:Wah, i thought van can't be on lane 1 only? Even lane 2 also cannot uh?

Lane 2 is for slow moving cars to overtake only. When they overtook, they should move back to lane 3. I think lane 1 also applies the same rule. So whenever I see TP, I will Guai Guai shift to lane 2. If I am not wrong, motorcycles are also considered slow moving vehicles. They should only use lane 1 to overtake. But nowadays, I see lorries, vans, pickups, trucks and motorcycles occupy lane 1 like they own it......

i thought they own the road..... u mean to say they didnt? and i thought i was being nice giving way to the owners......

Bed wrote:
Is it? Glad to know another shy Fortean When and where? What do we do for MU? Is it family friendly? Or better to come alone?

JuanST wrote:

km/ hour	distance to next car
10	5.56
20	11.11
30	16.67
40	22.22
50	27.78
60	33.33
70	38.89
80	44.44
90	50.00
100	55.56
110	61.11
120	66.67
130	72.22
140	77.78
150	83.33

This is the 2 sec rule for defensive driving....
as mentioned if ur running at 80k/hr, u must be 44.44 meters away from the car in front = that is around 10 car lenghts.

Bed wrote:
Where to attend the "Basic Defensive Driving Course"? How much is it? I think I need such course to fully understand my ride.

You mean even 3 to 4 cars length is still not enough? Scary to know this fact

aural wrote:

Bed wrote:
Is it? Glad to know another shy Fortean When and where? What do we do for MU? Is it family friendly? Or better to come alone?

MU is friendly if u are friendly lor. If u not friendly then not friendly.
Plus this round at turf city. You wife and kids bored can go giant buy groceries. But when they see so many cars same as urs they might also be O.O

JuanST wrote:this is for comfortable braking.... comfortable means u have 1 sec to decide whether u need to break or change lane and another full second to really really brake very very very hard..... and pray that that second is enuf......

Blacks wrote:

Bed wrote:
Where to attend the "Basic Defensive Driving Course"? How much is it? I think I need such course to fully understand my ride.

You mean even 3 to 4 cars length is still not enough? Scary to know this fact

I attended BBDC sponsored by ex company. How much?... for about 2 days in 2007. You better check with the centre.

The course is very detailed Basic. Show you all the things that everyday drivers might not see in their lifetime on the road. Or if one experience it he/she might not live another second/day.

Advance course avilable too. You will like it (Got $$ I'll go for advance course). Informative and Good hands on time.

Blacks wrote:I living in CCK so go BBDC. Call the up center.

KingJerry wrote:Actually headlamps fogging is quite a non issue right?

Today i was at changi T1 carpark and saw 2 x BMWs' condensed headlamp.. Initially i thought this problem was unique to Forte, but now i think our continental friends have it too.

But good thing you got ur ride back. Have fun with it!

The White Cruiser wrote:you mean your forte is currently exhaust-less?

lukester wrote:congrats on getting ur ride back.

hopefully exhaust will be here shortly wor.

JuanST wrote:good ur paying attention to details..... check the gaps on boot and hood.... make sure they are even.... anyway... grats

dreamzzlandz wrote:Bro Bed, glad you got back your ride after the facelift ... I was reading your incident on the first page, and I really find you very composed and even got the time and mood to analyse the weaknesses and strengths of the cars involved in the chain accident... Seem like Vios is quite weak.. maybe because its made in Thailand...? Not sure though..

A few years back, when I was waiting for bus I witnessed a chain accident right in right of me... think there were altogether 4 cars banged,...but what amazed me what that the very first car was perfectly saved, but the 2nd vehichle which was a kia old lorry was crushed infront causing some liquid leakage( dont know what it was though) and the 3rd and 4th all got banged too... I was surprised that the back of the 1st vehicle ( did not see the brand seem like a continental car, its was something like a goods vehicle, it looked big size, comparable to the size of a MPV, retangular... ) was in perfect condition unlike the miserable state of the 2nd kia lorry's front and back... so I was thinking the metal which was used to make our car body also important during impacts.. if its hard enough, it can be perfectly saved.

Does Continental cars such as Peugeot, Audi etc got stronger and tougher body than other brands?