OPC Query

I still personally think that it is ok for to drive down my mscp to wash my car. No rules that is general enough to mention that mcsp is a road. So basically For OPC owners just do what you think is right.No need to ponder and question.

Hermie wrote:I still personally think that it is ok for to drive down my mscp to wash my car. No rules that is general enough to mention that mcsp is a road. So basically For OPC owners just do what you think is right.No need to ponder and question.

The problem comes when what you think is not in line with what TP/LTA thinks . That's where the fine comes in....

when the thinking collides.... they can always write the "fine" paper.... u can always complain / appeal.....so the game is not exactly fair.... for them it is a piece of paper.... for us... money, time and peace of mind...

That's why for people who loves freedom. This is police state.

For people who wants security. This is peace.

The authority has the right to discretion.

anywhere it is the same, traffic police can fine u and the only way u can do is either pay or appeal/ protest. not being a police state - just the way government are set.

if we use that generalisation, everywhere is a police state.
at least here we have a recourse..... got mp and election some more....

If i may add, there is a fine line between a fine and being fine with the rules. If it may come with a possible fine, better dun advise wrongly and when someone else thought it is ok, they get slap with a 5k summon.

agree with aural. LTA never say won't fine you. The rule say you can be fine.

Discretion means can still fine you. (I prefer this definition when it come to rule in Singapore.)

Singapore is a land of law. Our MM also say so liow. Everyone here must respect it.

So Singapore is a fine country.

yup... a fine country.... luckily... not a bribe country....bribe more stressful...

JuanST wrote:yup... a fine country.... luckily... not a bribe country....bribe more stressful...

Bribe is scary. No way to appeal somemore...

Can we use e-coupon now?? start already??
if i drive my OPC on restricted hours without the coupon? will i be summoned? since i have till midnight to buy one?

I believe the e-coupon will only start wef 23 Nov 09. However, you may purchase the e-coupon in advance (if u know which day u need to drive your OPC).

xenocide wrote:Can we use e-coupon now?? start already??
if i drive my OPC on restricted hours without the coupon? will i be summoned? since i have till midnight to buy one?

Anyone find out this esp OPC drivers?

I suspect they will not fine you on the spot but get ur number and key into the system. By mid night u did not buy and the system did not capture, few days later u will get a nice letter.

Actually as the authority, i think the e system may be easier for them in this aspect to enforce than to send people going around and stopping cars. Now dun need to stop just need to take ur plate number.

ok just went to onemotoring website.
u still need to purchase the paper coupon from now till 22nd.
However u can buy the e-coupon NOW for usage on/after 23rd.
So confusing...

Anyway, when are the coupons become unusable?

23rd Nov? the onemotoring/LTA website not very clear...
everything touch and go.. very vague to me...

xenocide wrote:23rd Nov? the onemotoring/LTA website not very clear...
everything touch and go.. very vague to me...

When they are too clear, they scared to kenna complaint.

wat about the optional conversion of old OPC scheme to the new scheme, whereby we top up road tax for full saturday and the 5 public holiday eve? when will that start?

KnGp wrote:wat about the optional conversion of old OPC scheme to the new scheme, whereby we top up road tax for full saturday and the 5 public holiday eve? when will that start?

next year 2010

Haven receive any form from LTA

I think is 23rd Nov start, received a letter from LTA last week. For the new scheme, starts from Feb next year

hi all bro

am planning to drive my opc tomolo . need advice on when and where to buy the e coupon and when is the deadline that i need to buy the coupon if i am driving my car on 04/12/2009 whicch is tomorrow

thks in advance

sc wrote:hi all bro

am planning to drive my opc tomolo . need advice on when and where to buy the e coupon and when is the deadline that i need to buy the coupon if i am driving my car on 04/12/2009 whicch is tomorrow

thks in advance

one method is you can go to any AXS machine, click on LTA -> e-licence -> input car number ..... pay$$. If used on Dec 4, you have till Dec 5 2359 hrs to make the payment.

Got a question.

When do we stop using the OPC ticket?

Also, when does the full day on Sat start?
Jan or March?

How do we convert the road tax to be able to drive full day on Sat?

u didnt receive LTA letter meh?
Paper coupon already history since 23rd last month.. its e-day license now.. pls note u cannot use paper coupon already.. and if u forget to buy e-day license by end of next day after driving ur opc car during restricted hrs.. u r in serious trouble..

FYI, full day usage on sat supposed to be end Jan 2010, but no information regarding how to "opt-in" is given so far..

Crap...

Used it last week and was still using the coupons... Dammit...

Hope can appeal...

But how do I know if I kenna??

Will send me a letter??

scorpey wrote:u didnt receive LTA letter meh?
Paper coupon already history since 23rd last month.. its e-day license now.. pls note u cannot use paper coupon already.. and if u forget to buy e-day license by end of next day after driving ur opc car during restricted hrs.. u r in serious trouble..

FYI, full day usage on sat supposed to be end Jan 2010, but no information regarding how to "opt-in" is given so far..

I also nvr receive letter

joepele wrote:Crap...

Used it last week and was still using the coupons... Dammit...

Hope can appeal...

But how do I know if I kenna??

Will send me a letter??

Call and inform LTA and at the same time, keep your used coupon, it might be useful.... good luck!

joepele> maybe can appeal if u kanna "spotted" since the system still new.. but who knows.. maybe u r not spotted den lucky lor..

if im not wrong tat letter was sent quite sometime ago.. anyway its made known to OPC owners n public liao.. visit One motoring.. there is some information there.. guys remember not to use paper coupon liao.. its History! if u guys still got unused paper coupons..u can refund the unused coupons at SingPost outlets..

i just registered with the sms service.. already ready to use.. quite convenient now really.. many modes to buy e-coupon n best is can use first den pay later.. but if u r forgetful sort..better buy first den drive.. cheers!

Juz got a call from them to go for an interview.

They also ask me to bring down the coupon and will consider convering the paper coupon to an e coupon....

Hope things go well tomorrow.

joepele wrote:Juz got a call from them to go for an interview.

They also ask me to bring down the coupon and will consider convering the paper coupon to an e coupon....

Hope things go well tomorrow.

u mean u kena 'spotted'?

oh.. i think they saw u using the coupon too.. if tats case maybe not so bad..
hope u still have the coupon and everything goes well for u..

scorpey wrote:joepele> maybe can appeal if u kanna "spotted" since the system still new.. but who knows.. maybe u r not spotted den lucky lor..

if im not wrong tat letter was sent quite sometime ago.. anyway its made known to OPC owners n public liao.. visit One motoring.. there is some information there.. guys remember not to use paper coupon liao.. its History! if u guys still got unused paper coupons..u can refund the unused coupons at SingPost outlets..

i just registered with the sms service.. already ready to use.. quite convenient now really.. many modes to buy e-coupon n best is can use first den pay later.. but if u r forgetful sort..better buy first den drive.. cheers!

Hi Bro Scorpey

How do you register for the sms service? via onemotoring? I even tried to purchase via WEB and it is so slow to process my request. In the end, got to go to S/Post to buy the e-copon.

Thanks

Jeff>> register at mobile pay service at the link below.. den follow instruction accordingly after u register.. they will send u a password (few days later via mail) for u to log in.. after log in follow a few simple instruction i.e. input car number, bank account etc den ready to go!

https://www.mobilepay.sg/consumer_signup/Introduction.action?signup=


i havent try buying thr the internet yet.. so difficult ar?

Thanks Bro. Wanted to buy the e-coupon tomorrow since I'm going down to LK to install my BK.

Tried the WEB just now & it is very fast today. Guess i will stick with WEB for the time being......1 thing to note is that you must have internet banking

No la...

I called them myself and told them that I had used the coupon after the 23 Nov and asked them for advise... they mentioned an office would call me and then received a call today.... asking me to go down for an "interview".

Btw, if you happen to have spare paper coupon with you, you can actually "convert" into e-coupon or change it to hard cash at Singpost.

Bro Joe => while being "interviewed" tomorrow, maybe you can check with them on the process of opting in to the new scheme

Till now, no sound no pic from LTA......dunno WTF they are doing......

ya intending to do that...

Will prep myself if they were play punk too.



My work is a little similar to what they do too...

Can also ask them why the need to pay S$100 for opt in (multiply that by 45,000 OPC cars thats alot of $$$ for this "opt in" ) so much "admin" work meh?

What if choose to opt out? how do they differentiate which OPC is "in" which is "out"

Elixir99 wrote:Can also ask them why the need to pay S$100 for opt in (multiply that by 45,000 OPC cars thats alot of $$$ for this "opt in" ) so much "admin" work meh?

What if choose to opt out? how do they differentiate which OPC is "in" which is "out"

i think they will have a system to differentiate ba..

the only thing i find weird is the $100 opt in thing.. shouldn't it be for people that wanna opt into the new scheme AFTER it is implemented?

my SE told me my car should be arriving in jan.. so it means if I register before the new scheme comes in, I'll have to topup $100? quite lame leh lidat..

Elixir99 wrote:Can also ask them why the need to pay S$100 for opt in (multiply that by 45,000 OPC cars thats alot of $$$ for this "opt in" ) so much "admin" work meh?

What if choose to opt out? how do they differentiate which OPC is "in" which is "out"

These kind of questions ask them also no use la...

May as well ask your MP.

Bro Joe, how's your interview with them yesterday?

I was there at around 3pm...

Seems like there were many pple who also kenna...

But they converted the paper license to e license...

In an out in 30 mins... but they said it was a 1 time off thing... next time... will kenna interview liow.....

..........

Anyway......

As for the conversion thing..........

They mentioned that more details out be released in Jan.... but not sure when in Jan.......

Damn......

2 things......

1. They are quite clueless about this......

2. They are going to announce that there would be an election around the sometime too....


Consider this....

Even with the announcements about the conversion of paper license to e license... still many pple was not well informed....

If they think they can communicate this to all OPC owners in 1 month..... I really dun know WTFish they are thinking.......

sorry, got a question for OPC.

Will OPC insurance be a lot cheaper than normal car?

Thanks.

stepper78 wrote:sorry, got a question for OPC.

Will OPC insurance be a lot cheaper than normal car?

Thanks.

Nope.

joepele wrote:

stepper78 wrote:sorry, got a question for OPC.

Will OPC insurance be a lot cheaper than normal car?

Thanks.

Nope.

actually i thot it does...mine shld be abt 300 plus cheaper when compare to normal car

tarepanda_lyh wrote:

joepele wrote:

stepper78 wrote:sorry, got a question for OPC.

Will OPC insurance be a lot cheaper than normal car?

Thanks.

Nope.

actually i thot it does...mine shld be abt 300 plus cheaper when compare to normal car

Really??

Which insurance company you bought from??

joepele wrote:

tarepanda_lyh wrote:

joepele wrote:

stepper78 wrote:sorry, got a question for OPC.

Will OPC insurance be a lot cheaper than normal car?

Thanks.

Nope.

actually i thot it does...mine shld be abt 300 plus cheaper when compare to normal car

Really??

Which insurance company you bought from??

"Kia compulsory insurance" - AIG

tarepanda_lyh wrote:

joepele wrote:

tarepanda_lyh wrote:

joepele wrote:

stepper78 wrote:sorry, got a question for OPC.

Will OPC insurance be a lot cheaper than normal car?

Thanks.

Nope.

actually i thot it does...mine shld be abt 300 plus cheaper when compare to normal car

Really??

Which insurance company you bought from??

"Kia compulsory insurance" - AIG

Me too... but how come not cheaper le?

u got do comparison with ur frens?

sorry bro joepele, my apologies....contacted my fren again who got the same model as me but under normal car, his insurance is almost about the same price, after factoring in his NCD which i've calculated wrongly previously...