Check it out.. FORTE BK.. Picture intensive.

I always think original bodykits are made of ABS plastic?

ah? watz PU and ABS material?

PU are mostly found in replica bodykits... While ABS is the original material that are used on original bumpers...

There are also fibre bodykit (Cheap but break apart easily due to pressure as they are very hard or not elastic)
PU is some kind of plastics but not as good as ABS as you might see waves on painted PU material...
There is a better one which is called FRP which is a better mix but I am not sure if this one is better than ABS...

ooooohhhh.. okie.. thx bro!!

My pleasure...

nothing wrote:The bodykit made of PU material

Geat news n thank god! 8)

Anyone have pics of a bright silver forte with BK on? would love to see how it looked

Real.SHIN wrote:PU are mostly found in replica bodykits... While ABS
is the original material that are used on original bumpers...

There are also fibre bodykit (Cheap but break apart easily due to pressure as they are very hard or not elastic)
PU is some kind of plastics but not as good as ABS as you might see waves on painted PU material...
There is a better one which is called FRP which is a better mix but I am not sure if this one is better than ABS...

PU is the best material for bumpers & bodykits, being softer and flexible, easy to attach, least brittle (prone to cracking on impact or abrasions) and absorb more impact in a collision - whether with a hard object or pedestrian.
PU is therefore used in original bumpers and kits.


Fibreglass material is brittle and prone to crack on impact etc.
- in fact heard that fibreglass bumpers/kits are not legal for safety reasons.

Fibre reinforced plastic (FRP) - slightly better than fibreglass, not so brittle, but still lose to PU.
Replica kits are usually made of these.

i do not know about ABS though

Then i'm ok ith having PU over FB

Although its a bit dry... .but will shed more lights






ABS resins are hard, rigid, and tough, even
at low temperatures. They consist of particles of a rubberlike toughener
suspended in a continuous phase of styrene-acrylonitrile (SAN) copolymer.
Various grades of these amorphous, medium-priced thermoplastics are available
offering different levels of impact strength, heat resistance, flame
retardance, and platability.

Most natural ABS resins are translucent to
opaque, and they can be pigmented to almost any color. Grades are available for
injection molding, extrusion, blow molding, foam molding, and thermoforming.
Molding and extrusion grades provide surface finishes ranging from satin to
high gloss. Some ABS grades are designed specifically for electroplating. Their
molecular structure is such that the plating process is rapid, easily
controlled, and economical.

Compounding of some ABS grades with other
resins produces special properties. For example, ABS is alloyed with
polycarbonate to provide a better balance of heat resistance and impact
properties at an intermediate cost. Deflection temperature is improved by the
polycarbonate; molding ease, by the ABS. Other ABS resins are used to modify
rigid PVC for use in pipe, sheeting, and molded parts. Reinforced grades
containing glass fibers, to 40%, are also available.

Related to ABS is SAN, a copolymer of
styrene and acrylonitrile (no butadiene) that is hard, rigid, transparent, and
characterized by excellent chemical resistance, dimensional stability, and ease
of processing. SAN resins are usually processed by injection molding, but
extrusion, injection-blow molding, and compression molding are also used. They
can also be thermoformed, provided that no postmold trimming is necessary.
(Because the material is not toughened, thermoformed shapes may crack during
conventional trimming operations.)

Properties: ABS plastics offer a good balance of tensile
strength, impact and abrasion resistance, dimensional stability, surface
hardness, rigidity, heat resistance, low-temperature properties, chemical
resistance, and electrical characteristics. These materials yield plastically
at high stresses, so ultimate elongation is seldom significant in design; a
part usually can be bent beyond its elastic limit without breaking, although it
does stress-whiten. While not generally considered flexible, ABS parts have
enough spring to accommodate snap-fit assembly requirements.

Impact properties of ABS are exceptionally
good at room temperature and, with special grades, at temperatures as low as
-40°F. Because of its plastic yield at high strain rates, impact failure of ABS
is ductile rather than brittle. Also, the skin effect which, in other
thermoplastics, accounts for a lower impact resistance in thick sections than
in thin ones, is not pronounced in ABS materials. A long-term tensile design
stress of 1,000 to 1,500 psi (at 73°F) is recommended for most grades.

General-purpose ABS grades may be adequate
for some outdoor applications, but prolonged exposure to sunlight causes color
change and reduces surface gloss, impact strength, and ductility. Less affected
are tensile strength, flexural strength, hardness, and elastic modulus.
Pigmenting the resins black, laminating with opaque acrylic sheet, and applying
certain coating systems provide weathering resistance. For maximum color and
gloss retention, a compatible coating of opaque, weather-resistant polyurethane
can be used on molded parts. For weatherable sheet applications, ABS resins can
be coextruded with a compatible weather-resistant polymer on the outside
surface.

ABS resins are stable in warm environments
and can be decorated with durable coatings that require baking at temperatures
to 160°F for 30 to 60 min. Heat-resistant grades can be used for short periods
at temperatures to 230°F in light load applications. Low moisture absorption
contributes to the dimensional stability of molded ABS parts.

Molded ABS parts are almost completely
unaffected by water, salts, most inorganic acids, food acids, and alkalies, but
much depends on time, temperature, and especially stress level. FDA acceptance
depends to some extent on the pigmentation system used. The resins are soluble
in esters and ketones, and they soften or swell in some chlorinated
hydrocarbons, aromatics, and aldehydes.

Properties of SAN resins are controlled
primarily through acrylonitrile content and molecular weight of the copolymer.
Increasing both improves physical properties, at a slight penalty in processing
ease. Properties of the resins can also be enhanced by controlling orientation
during molding. Tensile and impact strength, barrier properties, and solvent
resistance are improved by this control.

Special grades of SAN are available with
improved UV stability, vapor-barrier characteristics, and weatherability. The
barrier resins -- designed for the blown-bottle market -- are also tougher and
have greater solvent resistance than the standard grades.

Applications: Molded ABS products are used in both protective and
decorative applications. Examples include safety helmets, camper tops,
automotive instrument panels, and other interior components, pipe fittings,
home-security devices and housings for small appliances, communications
equipment, and business machines. Chrome-plated ABS has replaced die-cast
metals in plumbing hardware and automobile grilles, wheel covers, and mirror
housings.

Typical products vacuum-formed from extruded
ABS sheet are refrigerator liners, luggage shells, tote trays, mower shrouds,
boat hulls, and large components for recreational vehicles. Extruded shapes
include weather seals, glass beading, refrigerator breaker strips, conduit, and
pipe for drain-waste-vent (DWV) systems. Pipe and fittings comprise one of the
largest single application areas for ABS.


Typical applications for
molded SAN copolymers include instrument lenses, vacuum-cleaner and humidifier
parts, medical syringes, battery cases, refrigerator compartments, food-mixer
bowls, computer reels, chair shells, and dishwasher-safe houseware products.
Because of their compatibility with many higher-priced resins, SAN resins are
also used as color-concentrate carriers for some engineering resins.



Polyurethanes are used throughout your car — in familiar places
like the foam that makes your car seats comfortable, as well as a few
places you might not expect. Did you know that polyurethanes are used
in the bumpers, the interior “headliner” ceiling section, the car body,
its spoilers, and in all the doors and windows? Polyurethane use in transportation has increased 9 percent
since 1998, and shows no signs of slowing down. Put simply,
polyurethane enables manufacturers to provide drivers and passengers a
lot more automobile “mileage” than just a few years ago, through:

• reduced weight and increased fuel economy
  
• increased comfort
  
• corrosion resistance
  
• insulation
  
• sound absorption
  

Several types of polyurethane are used in cars and trucks for a variety of purposes. We’ve listed the major categories below.
Polyurethane Foam
Polyurethane foam offers
automobile designers and manufacturers the means to produce seating
that can be easily assembled, disassembled and recycled. It also meets
the highest performance specifications over a wide range of firmness —
without added weight.
Through many years of service, and even under heavy use,
polyurethane foam retains its original firmness, shape and resiliency
for the life of the vehicle. In a study comparing polyurethane-based
seats to other materials, polyurethane cushioning with well over 5,000
hours of fleet use still met the original design intent, with
negligible loss of hardness or comfort. Cushions made with other
materials (polyester and natural rubberized fibers) had to be removed
from the test vehicles due to compacting, deformation and degradation.
Arm rests, head rests, cushioned instrument panels and other parts
of your car’s interior are all made with polyurethane foams. Thanks to
efficient and cost-effective processes, these foams can be recycled to
make carpeting for homes, offices and cars.
Reaction Injection-Molded Polyurethane
The
automotive industry is the largest user of reaction injection-molded
(RIM) polyurethane parts. RIM is used to maximize the shock absorption
of your car’s fenders, bumpers and spoilers, without adding weight or
bulk. Lightweight RIM polyurethanes give cars better gas mileage and
allow engineers the freedom to create innovative designs that otherwise
would never be possible, let alone affordable.
Until recently, metal alloys were used for automobile exterior
parts. However, these alloys are much more susceptible to dents, dings,
stone chips, and corrosion than polyurethane versions.
The advantages of RIM polyurethane continue inside the car. Today,
many interior components are made with RIM, such as steering wheels,
air ducts, floor mats and seat bottoms.
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Polyurethane coatings
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bumpers onto the vehicle. The bond strength, durability, heat and
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of your car.
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puncture-resistant tire fill. The ease of molding these materials,
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Polyurethanes
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In Europe, the European Isocyanate Producers Association (ISOPA)
continues to support the use of carefully controlled incineration to
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bro... its very dry lol !!

bro next time juz provide the link can liao lah...

Fortec wrote:bro next time juz provide the link can liao lah...

no... u should ask him read liao then summarize for us hehe

Usually those better quality bk is using PU material, those from Malaysia and cost less than 600 dollars usually fibreglass, kana slight knock sure crack.....

so the bks given by C&C are PU then should be ok rite?...

leo wrote:so the bks given by C&C are PU then should be ok rite?...

Definitely not Fibreglass......

Bodykit cannot get FOC ah?

can if ur se is good..

Then anyone got receive free BK from his/her SE?

there is some of the bros here managed to get bk.. check out this thread.. http://www.ceratoforte.forumotion.com/general-discussion-for-forte-owners-f2/what-package-did-you-get-for-your-forte-t2.htm or http://www.ceratoforte.forumotion.com/relax-chit-chat-corner-f4/ai-koonz-morning-greeting-t79-270.htm

outside still dun have forte BK ar..if have wats the damage 8)

Zeed wrote:Then anyone got receive free BK from his/her SE?

Me! I managed to get free BK but my SE said no stock at the moment, have to wait till June..

r11s wrote:outside still dun have forte BK ar..if have wats the damage 8)

Outside BK most probably cost $1,500 and below. Anything above this amount not worth paying for it.

Outside replica BK can get around 1-1.2K using PU...as mentioned anything more kana carrot liao...try not to get those riveted on, kana knock, very expensive process to replace as it's riveted onto car body.

Was reading HOT STUFF latest issue and saw MACH accessories doing BK for forte. i call them up,

me: hellow u do bk for forte?
Salesguy: Ya
me: how much ah?
Salesguy: sorry we dont sell
me: then u advertise for what?
Salesguy: we only do for C&C Kia
me: so ur advertisement for show ah?
Salesguy: no lah, advertise loh....
me: ok thanks bye and hang up immediately....

give up

actually i get why they advertise .
cuz C & C pay them to show tat , "HEY WE GUYS DO HAVE BK ON OUR CARS , COMPARE TO OTHER JAP CAR"
so probably tat guy oso LL , comply and say they do it for KIA -.-

lol but the stupid thing is, there is no related issue to C&C in the advertise paage lol

tish wrote:Was reading HOT STUFF latest issue and saw MACH accessories doing BK for forte. i call them up,

me: hellow u do bk for forte?
Salesguy: Ya
me: how much ah?
Salesguy: sorry we dont sell
me: then u advertise for what?
Salesguy: we only do for C&C Kia
me: so ur advertisement for show ah?
Salesguy: no lah, advertise loh....
me: ok thanks bye and hang up immediately....

give up

haaa. bro Tish..

u cracked me up.. haaa...

LoL, i duno what the guy was thinking or why they advertise ... lol

btw, correct me if i am wrong.those purchase with bodykits as freebies would not be getting it soon as it is not approved by LTA ryte?so, C&C is having a lot of bad log.they are sending it back to korea for a redesigning.those order late may wont have any bodykit but will be replaced by auto fold mirror.

boardrider02 wrote:btw, correct me if i am wrong.those purchase with bodykits as freebies would not be getting it soon as it is not approved by LTA ryte?so, C&C is having a lot of bad log.they are sending it back to korea for a redesigning.those order late may wont have any bodykit but will be replaced by auto fold mirror.

from where u get n how reliable ur info???? most ppl noe dat a deal had been sign wif a local vendor to supply e bk only to C&C.... n due to demand, they cant get e bk ready in time... n watz dat got to do wif korea if e bk is not lta approved when its locally made.... aniway, juz wait til e end of diz month. hope to see e first forte wif e C&C bk on e road..

boardrider02 wrote:btw, correct me if i am wrong.those purchase with bodykits as freebies would not be getting it soon as it is not approved by LTA ryte?so, C&C is having a lot of bad log.they are sending it back to korea for a redesigning.those order late may wont have any bodykit but will be replaced by auto fold mirror.

You suure about this?
As far as I can see, the bodykit is very LTA compliant.
Bodykit promo comes & goes, got nothing to do with auto folding mirror.

boardrider02 wrote:btw, correct me if i am wrong.those purchase with bodykits as freebies would not be getting it soon as it is not approved by LTA ryte?so, C&C is having a lot of bad log.they are sending it back to korea for a redesigning.those order late may wont have any bodykit but will be replaced by auto fold mirror.

you got partially right.. Yes.. BK delayed is due to reject by LTA compliant.. During the showroom promo, KIA did not send for LTA compliant as they are rushing the fixed the BK for promo. After the May promo, they send it to LTA for compliant but FAIL!! Mach Accessories (Local vendor) had alter the minor changes and LTA has approved to it. So now our BK are still in progress of production and still hear no news from C&C.

Terrier, so the actual CnC BK would be different in terms of look from the showroom one?
I took at closer look under bright morning light in the showroom on friday when I sent my car in to get the knocking sound fixed. The stock bodykit is made from Fibreglass for sure, and the lines on the sideskirt is HORRIBLE. It's not smooth, it's not even straight! I don't know how come I didn't see that when I booked my car. I really wish the final production one would be alot better in terms of quality. Otherwise I might just forgot the BK, I'm getting quite used to the look of my car without BK.

Those u see in the showrm are rapid prototype using fibreglass, only when designs approved and firmed, the supplier will do up a mould.....

tish wrote:Was reading HOT STUFF latest issue and saw MACH accessories doing BK for forte. i call them up,

me: hellow u do bk for forte?
Salesguy: Ya
me: how much ah?
Salesguy: sorry we dont sell
me: then u advertise for what?
Salesguy: we only do for C&C Kia
me: so ur advertisement for show ah?
Salesguy: no lah, advertise loh....
me: ok thanks bye and hang up immediately....

give up

Maybe more ppl can call, and they will think alot of ppl want bk, no nid CnC... then they will start selling hahaha

i think they got contract with C&C n that particular design and maybe sales of BK to forte model.

This same design and material bodykits offered by C&C is also available for sales by Kereta services now.. Only $600.00 include paint + install. Super good deal.

forte35 wrote:This same design and material bodykits offered by C&C is also available for sales by Kereta services now.. Only $600.00 include paint + install. Super good deal.

What? only $600? C&C SE used to tell me $1500.

Actually the original look is nice.

Adding BK will spend more $$$ to "liao" more petrol due to the added weight?