Flaws of Koup (auto)

After last nite MU with some Koupians, here's the consolidated list of flaws we found:

1. Able to move the gears without stepping on brake.
   
2. Memory Seat have no memory, it only goes back to default position.
   
3. Passenger able to open the door without unlocking when it is locked by the driver.
   
4. Driver side window can't go up automatically, can only go down automatically.
   

Points 1 & 3 is more critical. Koupians who have kids please take note, do not let your children play with the gear, best to put them at the back seats.

A look of the problems.. actually not problems lehhh!

1. My Forte also have this issue.. i think it is default from KIA. (Anyone can confirm?)

2. No idea.. got this function on new koup huh?

3. This one is for emergency purposes. Driver side also can open after locking it.

4. Common setting.. my forte also same.. the windows can auto go down but no auto up!

1. Able to move the gears without stepping on brake.

Which car you know of for auto need to step brake then can change gear?????

2. Memory Seat have no memory, it only goes back to default position.
no comments, guess C&C never order this feature... cut cost ma..

3. Passenger able to open the door without unlocking when it is locked by the driver.
This is not a bug but a feature, guess KIA forgot koup only 2 doors only. Cause it make sense for Forte 4 doors where the front doors will allow the passenger to open without even unlock the door.

4. Driver side window can't go up automatically, can only go down automatically
Again this is not a bug but a missing feature which KIA never provide. You will have to purchase after market windows up module.

1. Civic lor... from R or P, must step brake then can shift to N or D.
3. Agree with Keigo, it's safety. Lock is to prevent others from coming in, not locking ppl in as prisoners! haha.

4. Is also a safety feature to prevent child accidents. No doubt there are better (and more expensive) systems out there, KIA simply chose the cheapest one.

not very sure tho... but i think jap cars muz step on brake then can move from P to other gears. it can be a hazard if can move without stepping on the brake.

Maybe bros with more experience can share?

I think because of the way the Jap car gear is design... their gear is 1 straight line and can easily move up and down...

if you look at forte one.. to move from one gear to another require some strength to move it..

so I dont think it will create any road hazard... else you will hear KIA car crash due to gear move long long time ago..

joA wrote:not very sure tho... but i think jap cars muz step on brake then can move from P to other gears. it can be a hazard if can move without stepping on the brake.

Maybe bros with more experience can share?

I'm pretty sure all cars have that, gotta step on the brakes before u can move from P to others... Its a very basic safety feature to prevent accidentally engaging into reverse... However, looking at kia's implementation, u have to push to the left first before u can pull down... maybe kia thinks that this is enough to prevent accidental shifting?

My dad's renault megane requires driver to step on the brakes and press the button on the gear before u can change from "P"...

Corgel wrote:

joA wrote:not very sure tho... but i think jap cars muz step on brake then can move from P to other gears. it can be a hazard if can move without stepping on the brake.

Maybe bros with more experience can share?

I'm pretty sure all cars have that, gotta step on the brakes before u can move from P to others... Its a very basic safety feature to prevent accidentally engaging into reverse... However, looking at kia's implementation, u have to push to the left first before u can pull down... maybe kia thinks that this is enough to prevent accidental shifting?

My dad's renault megane requires driver to step on the brakes and press the button on the gear before u can change from "P"...

I drove KIA RIO dont need lor... so guess korea car dont have and jap car have this feature..

But I drove lancer recently also dont need to step brake lei..

to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

bro any pix to show ???

Errr....the brake issue, think it depends. Most cars, from P to D, have to brake before can. From D to D2/D3, no need.

But I think this is applicable to like what KEigo mentioned, those straight line auto gears.

If I not mistaken, those with staggered ones, no need. Think the altis (I only tried the old version), with the staggered gear, you dun have to step on brake to go from P to R/D. I may have remembered wrongly tho. :-)

Anyways doesnt matter really. In the first place, shouldnt leave kids in the car unattended. :-)

max wrote:

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

bro any pix to show ???

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Corgel wrote:

joA wrote:not very sure tho... but i think jap cars muz step on brake then can move from P to other gears. it can be a hazard if can move without stepping on the brake.

Maybe bros with more experience can share?

I'm pretty sure all cars have that, gotta step on the brakes before u can move from P to others... Its a very basic safety feature to prevent accidentally engaging into reverse... However, looking at kia's implementation, u have to push to the left first before u can pull down... maybe kia thinks that this is enough to prevent accidental shifting?

My dad's renault megane requires driver to step on the brakes and press the button on the gear before u can change from "P"...

Some car come with this feature, like the old BMW do not have it to

viper007 wrote:

max wrote:

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

bro any pix to show ???

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Bro the aligment is out go back to agent to adjust it should be not problem if not when raining day come there will be problem water might get in.

viper007 wrote:

max wrote:

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

bro any pix to show ???

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wah .... I think happened to bro epig b4 oso ..... so always protruding or once awhile nia ???

KOD wrote:

viper007 wrote:

max wrote:

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

bro any pix to show ???

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Bro the aligment is out go back to agent to adjust it should be not problem if not when raining day come there will be problem water might get in.

yes going to call my SE to fix it for me

max wrote:

viper007 wrote:

max wrote:

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

bro any pix to show ???

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wah .... I think happened to bro epig b4 oso ..... so always protruding or once awhile nia ???

always.. so long as u open and close door

viper007 wrote:


always.. so long as u open and close door

wahh so jialat ah ....

got rain seep in anot?

Corgel wrote:got rain seep in anot?

nope i just have to make sure that its close properly

a lot of wind sound at speed?

haha so long as u make sure u close properly then there wouldnt be wind sound liao

now our lovely koup become like problem koup....

well so long as they can resolve it then its a small prob only lor

joA wrote:
[*] Driver side window can't go up automatically, can only go down automatically.

This point is actually safety feature.
Cos there are cases where "kam" drivers push up liao get some parts of their body caught in between... So end up ...
NO AUTO UPS.......
That was a safety issue being debated years ago in europe .....
End up most pp go retro fit auto up function. actually jus a switch thats all....no biggy.

viper007 wrote:

KOD wrote:

viper007 wrote:

max wrote:

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

bro any pix to show ???

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Bro the aligment is out go back to agent to adjust it should be not problem if not when raining day come there will be problem water might get in.

yes going to call my SE to fix it for me

Go to panden to fit it, if you call you SE still they will say go to repair agent to fit it they can't do anything

hmm, got lots to take note of when new koupians collet their car...

scalar wrote:now our lovely koup become like problem koup....

small problem for me is sound varbartion

Geldorave wrote:hmm, got lots to take note of when new koupians collet their car...

Sure every car have their problem, like eg. BMW have BMW problem Mec have Mec problem. now our problem must slove it

Go Koup

maybe too many ppl comprain abt taking too long to get their koup until kia factory anyhow hire unskilled bangla to anyhow whack. haha....

redkoup wrote:maybe too many ppl comprain abt taking too long to get their koup until kia factory anyhow hire unskilled bangla to anyhow whack. haha....

Not really, as our Koup is a low end type. by rite Koup have 8 air bag but you can count have many air bag in your car 2.

KOD wrote:

viper007 wrote:

KOD wrote:

viper007 wrote:

max wrote:

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

bro any pix to show ???

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Bro the aligment is out go back to agent to adjust it should be not problem if not when raining day come there will be problem water might get in.

yes going to call my SE to fix it for me

Go to panden to fit it, if you call you SE still they will say go to repair agent to fit it they can't do anything

ya going down 1st thing 2molo morning

i just dun like the opening of the boot using the handle at the driver side, feel like it's going to break in a couple of times lol

joA wrote:After last nite MU with some Koupians, here's the consolidated list of flaws we found:

1. Able to move the gears without stepping on brake.
   
2. Memory Seat have no memory, it only goes back to default position.
   
3. Passenger able to open the door without unlocking when it is locked by the driver.
   
4. Driver side window can't go up automatically, can only go down automatically.
   

Points 1 & 3 is more critical. Koupians who have kids please take note, do not let your children play with the gear, best to put them at the back seats.

bros

my point of view for item 1 and 3

item 1: I am driving a Hyundai, the gear is able shift w/o stepping on the brake. Wonder if it is a norm for Korea car.

Item 3: my friend who is driving a pica... Mention that the car door is open and close, the door will be lock when the brake is depressed. C&C mentioned that a relay is faulty.. Since the pica is still in warranty, he got it replace for free in pandan.

P/s : not quite the same as ts mentioned but worth thinking if the relay is the problem.

1. I drive Jap cars and it is necessary to step on brakes to engage from P to R or D. Safety feature.

3. Passenger able to open door when locked? WTF? All Honda cars and toyota cars require the door to be unlocked first then can open. If not lock for what???? Can anyone confirm this? This is so dangerous!!!

my old vios AT also have to step on brakes, press the gear button and then can shift from P to D...in fact whenever u at P, confirm have to press brake first to shift the lever.

stasystylez wrote:i just dun like the opening of the boot using the handle at the driver side, feel like it's going to break in a couple of times lol

i agree with this.. i always try to use the button on the key instead to open. I think the boot handle is too long or wat...

anyway, i still cannot figure out pt 3.. passenger able to open door when driver lock the door.. really ah?? go back then i try

by the way, is it possible to keep the engine running...step outside and then use remote to lock the door?

hi bros, i notice that there is a low pitch knocking sound when i apply the brakes each time i start driving my koup.. but the knocking sound subsides after two or three times of braking..

anybody experience this also?

for auto with push start, i dun think so coz yesterday i just step out of the car going to buy some stuff while my wife is still in the car, just got out and walk a few steps and u will hear a beep beep sound and the console will tell u remote key is not in the car

erm. regarding the auto gearbox. it's because of a shift lock system.

http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/AT12.pdf will be a good reference. sry if i'm too technical.

viper007 wrote:for auto with push start, i dun think so coz yesterday i just step out of the car going to buy some stuff while my wife is still in the car, just got out and walk a few steps and u will hear a beep beep sound and the console will tell u remote key is not in the car

Question is....beep beep then? Does the engine stop if the key continues to be not in the car?

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

I used to have this problem.When i got the car i do not encounter such problem . It comes oni after few days.Then i went back to CnC and they fixed it for me.

stasystylez wrote:i just dun like the opening of the boot using the handle at the driver side, feel like it's going to break in a couple of times lol

don worry bro just a feeling only la, you wo't pull so hard rite

viper007 wrote:

KOD wrote:

viper007 wrote:

KOD wrote:

viper007 wrote:

max wrote:

viper007 wrote:to add on to pt 4, my driver side of the window will protrude, any1 else have this prob?

bro any pix to show ???

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Bro the aligment is out go back to agent to adjust it should be not problem if not when raining day come there will be problem water might get in.

yes going to call my SE to fix it for me

Go to panden to fit it, if you call you SE still they will say go to repair agent to fit it they can't do anything

ya going down 1st thing 2molo morning

ok bro, I see whether I m free anot tomorrow if free I will going down to find you

btw checked wif SE regarding bluetooth kit.. she said my baobei no bt coz its only for those early batches tat booked at vivo/sep.. wth..

dey all so inconsistent lei.. pay much more but get lesser stuffs.. hmm.. funny rite..

nvm will wait nx wk wen i collect my car.. dey reali power to surprise..

hellbabe wrote:btw checked wif SE regarding bluetooth kit.. she said my baobei no bt coz its only for those early batches tat booked at vivo/sep.. wth..

dey all so inconsistent lei.. pay much more but get lesser stuffs.. hmm.. funny rite..

nvm will wait nx wk wen i collect my car.. dey reali power to surprise..

collecting next week ???

Guardian wrote:

joA wrote:After last nite MU with some Koupians, here's the consolidated list of flaws we found:

1. Able to move the gears without stepping on brake.
   
2. Memory Seat have no memory, it only goes back to default position.
   
3. Passenger able to open the door without unlocking when it is locked by the driver.
   
4. Driver side window can't go up automatically, can only go down automatically.
   

Points 1 & 3 is more critical. Koupians who have kids please take note, do not let your children play with the gear, best to put them at the back seats.

bros

my point of view for item 1 and 3

item 1: I am driving a Hyundai, the gear is able shift w/o stepping on the brake. Wonder if it is a norm for Korea car.

Item 3: my friend who is driving a pica... Mention that the car door is open and close, the door will be lock when the brake is depressed. C&C mentioned that a relay is faulty.. Since the pica is still in warranty, he got it replace for free in pandan.

P/s : not quite the same as ts mentioned but worth thinking if the relay is the problem.

Bro, Bro joa mention on item 3 is normally when driving awhile or step on the brake all the lock will lock rite, and on the Passenger if Passenger pull the door handle to open the door it can't rite as the door is lock. Now the problem is will door lock is lock Passenger pull the handle is can open and all our Koup have this problem.

whitechoco wrote:

stasystylez wrote:i just dun like the opening of the boot using the handle at the driver side, feel like it's going to break in a couple of times lol

i agree with this.. i always try to use the button on the key instead to open. I think the boot handle is too long or wat...

anyway, i still cannot figure out pt 3.. passenger able to open door when driver lock the door.. really ah?? go back then i try

Sis Whitechoco have you try, last nite in the met up we have try all having this problem. why??? and funny