Test driving tomorrow...

I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

wah! so nice got sponsor leh.. eyeing which colour? hehe

so u happy?

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

congrats....Faster get before the price shoot up again.....

buy e koup from farhan?? u guys sort it out.. hahah

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

Whoa, congrats, you shld like what u see/drive tomorrow

Enjoy and let us know about it!

unlimitedz wrote:buy e koup from farhan?? u guys sort it out.. hahah

Ah, I think the problem is still that the COE cannot transfer :S

ask farhan get picanto, sell koup@ reasonable rpice to him lo... lolx.. nice??? not inot detail how it works but from e top, tis arrangement looks nice.... hahahha...

TS look @ my testdrive n prepare urself!! whahah..
http://www.ceratoforte.forumotion.com/general-discussion-for-koup-owners-f28/koup-16manual-test-drive-14nov09-t2285.htm#86532

whitechoco wrote:wah! so nice got sponsor leh.. eyeing which colour? hehe

Haven't decided on the colour yet.... I love white, but dun think I'm gonna get it as I'll be probably too lazy to wash the car... See how first lor...

About the sponsor? I almost bought a S13, they had to come up with a better deal to stop me... haha...

Nolicense2 wrote:

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

congrats....Faster get before the price shoot up again.....

thought the price is going to come down? COE is at its peak now I guess...

Good good. One more added to the family.

Corgel wrote:

Nolicense2 wrote:

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

congrats....Faster get before the price shoot up again.....

thought the price is going to come down? COE is at its peak now I guess...

Ah, the number of COE is getting trimmed and the numbers is not going up any time soon. I would say otherwise... the price of COE is at its "lowest" now! Its expected to rise (by quite a bit) in the coming months!

Corgel wrote:

whitechoco wrote:wah! so nice got sponsor leh.. eyeing which colour? hehe

Haven't decided on the colour yet.... I love white, but dun think I'm gonna get it as I'll be probably too lazy to wash the car... See how first lor...

About the sponsor? I almost bought a S13, they had to come up with a better deal to stop me... haha...

congrats.... gd thing u neber buy S13.... sure hell gonna give u lots of problems..... & so gd got sponsor ya....

scalar wrote:congrats.... gd thing u neber buy S13.... sure hell gonna give u lots of problems..... & so gd got sponsor ya....

depends on how well the previous owner took care of the car... the one
on the market now is in a very bad condition... I'll need to pay 10k
plus to repair it if i were to bought it...

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

sponsor?? do your parents want a godson? can i volunteer??

just came back from test drive, tested the 2m and 1.6a cause ubi dun have 1.6m... surprisingly today not much ppl, could test drive the car straightaway...

tested the 2m first and found the throttle too sensitive; tap a little and it rushes forward... guess this car's dictionary don't have "move slowly"... good thing i didn't stall though... lol...

when i switched to the 1.6a, i was like, "oh man, this is so easy to drive..." felt comfortable in it immediately...

i find the 1.6's power is sufficient for this car, unlike the megane (my dad's car) which is super heavy... one problem though is the super big side mirrors... when i was turning right, the mirror blocked my view and i couldn't see the nose of my car nor the taxi's... think this is a big problem for me because I always come very close to the right nose during parking and overtaking (better the right nose where i can see than the left that i can't)...

Dummyhalf wrote:

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

sponsor?? do your parents want a godson? can i volunteer??

half only leh... if sponsor half for u might as well they pay the full amount for me? haha...

Corgel wrote:

Dummyhalf wrote:

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

sponsor?? do your parents want a godson? can i volunteer??

half only leh... if sponsor half for u might as well they pay the full amount for me? haha...

wa.. got sponsor damn gd liao lor.. i want also dont have.. lol..

shioko rite.... Hmmm... few pointed 1.6A power can be better...
6spped instead of 5 will be great...

Corgel wrote:just came back from test drive, tested the 2m and 1.6a cause ubi dun have 1.6m... surprisingly today not much ppl, could test drive the car straightaway...

tested the 2m first and found the throttle too sensitive; tap a little and it rushes forward... guess this car's dictionary don't have "move slowly"... good thing i didn't stall though... lol...

when i switched to the 1.6a, i was like, "oh man, this is so easy to drive..." felt comfortable in it immediately...

i find the 1.6's power is sufficient for this car, unlike the megane (my dad's car) which is super heavy... one problem though is the super big side mirrors... when i was turning right, the mirror blocked my view and i couldn't see the nose of my car nor the taxi's... think this is a big problem for me because I always come very close to the right nose during parking and overtaking (better the right nose where i can see than the left that i can't)...

bro, d 1.6 is really under power....

scalar wrote:bro, d 1.6 is really under power....

for auto, minimum gotta be 2.4L to hv any remote sensation of 'power'.

think the AT gearbox only 4 speed.

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

sooner or later you going to spend all you parents fortune away

forte3737 wrote:

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

sooner or later you going to spend all you parents fortune away

another computer hero comment.

TS also nv say he's not working neither did he say he'll be the only one using the car what.. wah biang.

omg2doors wrote:

forte3737 wrote:

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

sooner or later you going to spend all you parents fortune away

another computer hero comment.

TS also nv say he's not working neither did he say he'll be the only one using the car what.. wah biang.

just ignore him, the more u comment the more "heroic" he feels...

scalar wrote:bro, d 1.6 is really under power....

try driving the meagne for 3 years... when u switch to anything else, u'll feel like, "wow, so much power..." lol...

forte3737 wrote:

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

sooner or later you going to spend all you parents fortune away

Think you are very very pessimistic person.

First is prepare to get scratch, now this. LOL

true facts hurts.

True facts? I think you are insulting Corgel with that.

I shall not comment further.

epig wrote:

Corgel wrote:

Dummyhalf wrote:

Corgel wrote:I've been monitoring the Koup for very long already, seems like I'm finally going to get one... My parents are sponsoring for half of the car!!! lol...

sponsor?? do your parents want a godson? can i volunteer??

half only leh... if sponsor half for u might as well they pay the full amount for me? haha...

wa.. got sponsor damn gd liao lor.. i want also dont have.. lol..

ya lo.. i also want but dun have..

NiVleK wrote:True facts? I think you are insulting Corgel with that.

I shall not comment further.

like i said, ignore him.. it'll just make him feel important that someone is actually talking to him... There's a medical term for these attention seekers...

Corgel wrote:

NiVleK wrote:True facts? I think you are insulting Corgel with that.

I shall not comment further.

like i said, ignore him.. it'll just make him feel important that someone is actually talking to him... There's a medical term for these attention seekers...

ya lor..probably got sad childhood ba..then think everyone is out to get him or something..so can only resort to hiding behind comp and shoot people.

scalar wrote:bro, d 1.6 is really under power....

Bro 1.6 is not under power la, try going at 140km/h and above and u will understand what i mean.
Try that speed using a honda fit then u will know which is really underpower.

Pickup does not equal to power.



*pls try it only in a safe environment.

Wow.. this is Kool...

melburn wrote:

scalar wrote:bro, d 1.6 is really under power....

Bro 1.6 is not under power la, try going at 140km/h and above and u will understand what i mean.
Try that speed using a honda fit then u will know which is really underpower.

Pickup does not equal to power.



*pls try it only in a safe environment.

melburn wrote:

scalar wrote:bro, d 1.6 is really under power....

Bro 1.6 is not under power la, try going at 140km/h and above and u will understand what i mean.
Try that speed using a honda fit then u will know which is really underpower.

Pickup does not equal to power.



*pls try it only in a safe environment.

we dun compare a 1.3-1.5 ride with 1.6 lei.... plus d hp of both oso not d same.... try with d same hp car u will know d diff...

actualli, once on the move, what's more impr is the torque, not bhp.

ya, i agree....

redkoup wrote:actualli, once on the move, what's more impr is the torque, not bhp.

erm... isn't it the other way round? torque is wat moves the car from standstill... hp is wat determines the max speed...

Corgel wrote:

redkoup wrote:actualli, once on the move, what's more impr is the torque, not bhp.

erm... isn't it the other way round? torque is wat moves the car from standstill... hp is wat determines the max speed...

you are right. torque gives you acceleration. bhp gives top speed.

I find it underpowered too, maybe will remove the spare tyre, but for the price I'm paying: "Mai Hiam Lah!"

Hi Guys, for those who have tested driven the Koup auto and manual, do you find that the auto is rather sluggish? Overall, is the manual better??

didn't really test to the minute details, but nothing much to complain about for the whole test route on auto... I had 2 passengers behind...

Yongster wrote:Hi Guys, for those who have tested driven the Koup auto and manual, do you find that the auto is rather sluggish? Overall, is the manual better??

i tried 1.6AT with 3 passengers. It is sluggish cos of the heavy body.

Later on I tried 1.6MT with only 1 passenger. Of course, it is much better and much much more fun to drive.

Hi guys, its me again. lol

While on the move and trying to hit max speed, yes hp is the factor.

But i think what applies more for us is trying to tap power and overtake while on the move. This is where torque comes in. And of course weight counts as well.

Wanna compare 1.6 with 1.6 at around the same price range, we will have:

Chevrolet Cruze
Chevrolet Optra Magnum Estate
Chevrolet Optra Magnum Sedan
Hyundai Avante
Hyundai i30
Hyundai i30 WagonKia Cerato Forte
Mitsubishi LancerMitsubishi Lancer MR
Nissan Sunny
Proton Persona
Proton Satria Neo
Renault Clio
Renault Megane Sedan
Skoda Roomster
Suzuki Swift Sport
Suzuki SX4 Hatchback
Suzuki SX4 SedanToyota Corolla Altis

And out of all these, which one you think has the most torque to weight ratio?

psionix wrote:Hi guys, its me again. lol

While on the move and trying to hit max speed, yes hp is the factor.

But i think what applies more for us is trying to tap power and overtake while on the move. This is where torque comes in. And of course weight counts as well.

Wanna compare 1.6 with 1.6 at around the same price range, we will have:

Chevrolet Cruze
Chevrolet Optra Magnum Estate
Chevrolet Optra Magnum Sedan
Hyundai Avante
Hyundai i30
Hyundai i30 Wagon
Kia Cerato Forte
Mitsubishi Lancer
Mitsubishi Lancer MR
Nissan Sunny
Proton Persona
Proton Satria Neo
Renault Clio
Renault Megane Sedan
Skoda Roomster
Suzuki Swift Sport
Suzuki SX4 Hatchback
Suzuki SX4 Sedan
Toyota Corolla Altis

And out of all these, which one you think has the most torque to weight ratio?

My guess would be the Swift Sport...

If you're talking about overtaking then yes, torque is more important... Then again, u'll usually be maintaining ur rev at the max torque during normal driving.... during overtaking, u'll drop a gear and use more hp than torque...

scalar wrote:

melburn wrote:

scalar wrote:bro, d 1.6 is really under power....

Bro 1.6 is not under power la, try going at 140km/h and above and u will understand what i mean.
Try that speed using a honda fit then u will know which is really underpower.

Pickup does not equal to power.



*pls try it only in a safe environment.

we dun compare a 1.3-1.5 ride with 1.6 lei.... plus d hp of both oso not d same.... try with d same hp car u will know d diff...

Tats my pt bro, for 1.6 hw many cars can hit tat kinda of HP.
i've personally hit 160km/h in malaysia with 4 ppl in the car and i dun feel underpower at all. Tats y i dun really understand base on what factor do u consider underpower?
Of course if u compare with conti cars then also not apples to apples.

Just my 2 cents.

Torque to weight based on official specs (1.6l):
Forte = 156Nm / 1326kg = 0.11765
Swift Sport = 140Nm / 1100kg = 0.12727
Corolla Altis = 107Nm / 1255kg = 0.08525
Mitsubishi Lancer = 106Nm / 1115kg = 0.09507
Avante = 121 Nm / 1172kg = 0.10324

Bro Corgel, looks like your guess is right.
Forte still great by my books.

Corgel wrote:

My guess would be the Swift Sport...

If you're talking about overtaking then yes, torque is more important... Then again, u'll usually be maintaining ur rev at the max torque during normal driving.... during overtaking, u'll drop a gear and use more hp than torque...

Hmmm, very interesting. I am no pro here, but I find your view above differs from mine.
Just trying to clarify though. I might be wrong. lol.

I feel that during normal driving (cruising along HW), I normally use the highest gear (eg, 5th) and the engine will be around 3000rpm (depending on my speed).
This is not the rev range where I will get max torque. Max torque is at 4500++rpm.
This is why when I need to overtake, I will drop a gear to keep the rev high so that I can use the torque needed to propel the car forwards.

But of course I guess hp is important too. Besides, they always say

HP = rpm x T(torque) / 5252

Actually, forte's max torque is at 4200... After reading your post, I went to read up on torque and found this super long article here: http://www.seight.com/torque.html

I didn't know an average car's torque is above 4k, always had the misconception that its around 3k... if this is the case then yes, torque is more important than hp when overtaking...

wah.. cheemz sia...

well, i guess under-power or not depends on wad each individual is comparing to.. its the "Relativity" theory.. to me the 1.6A is good enough