Re: Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist

by TVaddict 17th October 2009, 7:45 pm

mine is an EX(M) as well...

just curious, what is the fc you guys are getting for your 1.6M? i'm getting around 14.5km/l... just want to know is this low or is there still room for improvement. hehe

i'm driving about 40% city 60% highway.

by **aural** 18th October 2009, 2:09 pm

TVaddict wrote:mine is an EX(M) as well...

just curious, what is the fc you guys are getting for your 1.6M? i'm getting around 14.5km/l... just want to know is this low or is there still room for improvement. hehe

i'm driving about 40% city 60% highway.

low? Looks good already wor. I getting 13km/l still at run in phase. Just hit only 1200km only and not yet serviced... Tmrw then can go to servicing.

by GPon 18th October 2009, 3:20 pm

i am also getting near to 15km/ltr or 720km per tank.. it really depends on ur driving pattern: how hard u accelerate and brake. usually running in phase still not so accurate as driving pattern still not so "harsh" to the car. howver, the FC still consider very good for a sedan weighing 1.3ton... also manual car is more fuel efficient

by muff 18th October 2009, 3:43 pm

you guys getting very good FC leh....

I'm only getting about 12.5km/l and hardly ever get caught it a jam......

40% City, 60% highway with 16" rims.... mileage now 12K..... using syn oil..... K&N filter........

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by GPon 18th October 2009, 3:47 pm

no need to mod right leg...

technique is jus need to move off with 5th gear alll the time ... haha Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 Icon_smile

by BlackHorse 18th October 2009, 6:43 pm

How to measure FC per litre btw? can anyone advice

by **aural** 18th October 2009, 10:15 pm

BlackHorse wrote:How to measure FC per litre btw? can anyone advice

Do this manually for 3 full tanks.

Top up full tank. Drive..... Empty then top up again
One cycle you can use the total mileage divided by the total fuel top up.

If you want to be "accurate" try to top up around the same time when then fuel empty light comes on.

Do for 3 cycles and get your average.

Just did my 2nd cycle but not accurate since only did not go servicing yet. But getting 12.8km/l thus far. Should improve after servicing. Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 332362

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by BlackHorse 18th October 2009, 11:46 pm

why does servicing improve FC consumption?

what they do during servicing? I thought they just check here and there

by **aural** 19th October 2009, 12:50 pm

BlackHorse wrote:why does servicing improve FC consumption?

what they do during servicing? I thought they just check here and there

Usually servicing includes oil change. And you should see some changes in your FC after the change.

by Divine 19th October 2009, 4:26 pm

ok bros manual here too.. i reckon if u dun accel abit when moving off and makes ur car shake.. that shake = engine knock. and engine knock is no good.

CVVT = Continious Varible Valve Timing, an equvelent of Vtec (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) )technology althou its a more inferior version it still produce quite a significant punch when u need all that power! only thing we dun have is the lift control.

my 2 cent =)

by GPon 19th October 2009, 10:38 pm

aural wrote:
BlackHorse wrote:why does servicing improve FC consumption?

what they do during servicing? I thought they just check here and there

Usually servicing includes oil change. And you should see some changes in your FC after the change.

agreed. usually after servicing the fc should be better. it will be more accurate after 10km as it changes to synthetic oil esp. the car should feel more power. eg still in stock condition don compare to those chng here n there la....

by BlackHorse 19th October 2009, 10:39 pm

then i am going for 1k soon!!

by xenocide 19th October 2009, 10:59 pm

yes yes!!! collected my TitS 1.6SX(M)

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by dc 20th October 2009, 8:19 pm

My 1.6EX (M) is getting only 11km/litre. Full tank getting ard 550km.

Running on 225/40/R18.

I'm wondering if my true distance is correct comparing with the odometer on the car..

Any1 can advise?

by xenocide 20th October 2009, 9:32 pm

dc wrote:My 1.6EX (M) is getting only 11km/litre. Full tank getting ard 550km.

Running on 225/40/R18.

I'm wondering if my true distance is correct comparing with the odometer on the car..

Any1 can advise?

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by jl1500k 20th October 2009, 9:35 pm

dc wrote:My 1.6EX (M) is getting only 11km/litre. Full tank getting ard 550km.

Running on 225/40/R18.

I'm wondering if my true distance is correct comparing with the odometer on the car..

Any1 can advise?

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Full tank is about 600km

by **aural** 20th October 2009, 11:08 pm

When i top up full tank 2 times always show 567km.
But my first full tank gave me 598km+ 50 to empty...
Like tt consider the gauge salah?

by KenOrCannot 24th October 2009, 12:41 am

Hi bros, SX 1.6 Manual here. Still waiting to get my ride. Nothing beats manual driving heehee. Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 Herz

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by BlackHorse 24th October 2009, 12:42 am

when SE say the collection date btw? curious here

and wad colour u chose?

by Leonard 24th October 2009, 5:35 am

sorry for the late reporting ..
1.6 SX (M) silver (:

by solace 25th October 2009, 4:30 pm

1.6SXM

by KenOrCannot 25th October 2009, 11:26 pm

BlackHorse wrote:when SE say the collection date btw? curious here

and wad colour u chose?

1st round COE bidding not successful. Waiting for next bidding. SE told me can get my ride around Dec or Jan if everything goes smoothly. Btw ordered Metallic Bronze. Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 Icon_smile

by astroboy28 26th October 2009, 1:09 am

hope u can gt ur ride soon

by KenOrCannot 26th October 2009, 11:48 pm

astroboy28 wrote:hope u can gt ur ride soon

Thanks astroboy28. Will be joining you bros on the road when i get my wheels heehee. Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 Icon_wink

by omg2doors 27th October 2009, 12:03 am

got 1.6M for my koup...

have been driving AT for 2 years plus already.. hopefully can get used to it..

oh..how's the gear shifting? does it feel vague?

by jl1500k 27th October 2009, 8:49 am

omg2doors wrote:got 1.6M for my koup...

have been driving AT for 2 years plus already.. hopefully can get used to it..

oh..how's the gear shifting? does it feel vague?

usually pp switch from manual to auto. You may regret alittle cos it take awhile to get use to manual driving.

Anyway what switch to auto since you have been driving auto for few years liao?

by BlackHorse 27th October 2009, 1:15 pm

http://www.asiaone.com/Motoring/Drivers/Story/A1Story20091027-176180.html#

Top 8 reasons why real men drive manual cars ..*goes to read now*

by ozzie75 27th October 2009, 1:31 pm

13-14km/L for me

by redkoup 27th October 2009, 1:45 pm

Koup 1.6 Manual here. My other car is auto so purposely buy a stick shift to play wif as I last owned a manual car abt 10yrs ago.

Farny thing happened when i went to test drive the Koup manual. So used to auto that i forgot to step on the clutch when i tried to slot it into gear. Gearbox went....GRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Thot WTF is wrong wif the gearshift. Tried again.....GRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Until SE reminded me, "err...u forgot to step on the clutch". Haha....dem malu. So if anyone thinking of buying the 2.0 blue Koup manual demo car next time, dun say u haven't been warned hor.... Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 256379

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by BlackHorse 27th October 2009, 2:02 pm

Top 8 reasons why real men drive manual

More and more Singaporeans are now favouring cars with automatic or semi-automatic transmissions.
Even car dealers find it impractical to bring in manual transmission cars (where can we get a six-speed manual Golf GTI without indenting one?).
It's a vicious cycle. But real men still drive manual cars, according to an AskMen.com article.

We list here their some of their top reasons:
A manual transmission is the ultimate in control

The manual transmission is for the alpha male, the one holding the TV remote. Men would rather be the boss than the subordinate. A car with a manual transmission lets the driver be the boss of the car, says AskMen.com. Throttle response will always be immediate unlike some modern automatic boxes. We tend to agree.

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7) You can use motoring jargon and not sound like a total fool
Having the ability to drive stick can make you sound like an authority on all things motoring when chatting to the fairer sex, even if you don't know what you're blabbering about. Unless your date is a motoring journalist.
6) You can't spell "manual" without "man"
Our favourite reason among AskMen.com's top ten list. Manual transmission is man because you can't say one without saying the other. Try saying "manual" without first saying "man".
Automatic boxes aren't considered cool and they have nicknames to go along with it. "Slushbox", for instance. "Flappy paddle gearboxes" just doesn't cut it as well. To AskMen.com, "nothing flappy will ever be manly."
5) Manual transmissions prove you can multi-task
Society looks up to people who can multi-task complex motor movements. Just look at the guy who got famous by shaking his hands and legs in different directions. He got hired by Visa for their ads.
Shifting a manual car is also quite complex. You have to release the accelerator with the right foot, depress the clutch with the left, use your right hand to select a different gear and then simultaneously release the clutch as you accelerate, hoping to engage clutch and throttle at that optimum rpm.
4) You can't drift in an auto
Hmm. AskMen.com says drifting is the most extreme form of car control. Driving it sideways requires a massive set of, erm, courage, and a car with a manual transmission.
A manual transmission is beneficial for drifting because you can keep the engine in the sweet spot of its powerband. Try it in an auto and watch the fun die as the transmission shifts up early and kills the power.


(left) Ivan Lim, Singapore's top drift driver manoevuring his car in a drift movement. (right) And him showng TNP reporter Joyce Lim the basics of drifting in his Toyota Chaser.

3) No more fancy moves in an automatic

There'll be no more heel-toe technique in an automatic, considered to be the elite driving manoeuvre in the motor racing world, says AskMen.com.
The heel-toe manoeuvre allows one to downshift, rev-match and brake all at once.
The driver will operate the clutch normally with the left foot. The ball of the right foot will be on the brake, slowing the car down, while at the same time the right heel of the foot will "blip" the throttle during gear change. This will match engine speed to the wheel speed. Benefits? It keeps the engine in the desired powerband and reduces drivetrain jolt, greatly reducing wear and tear on the transmission.
2) Manual transmission cars are more fun
Having control over your is advantageous. An engine performs best at a certain rpm range, the "sweet spot" so to speak. At the "sweet spot" the power curve generally gets more aggressive.
With a manual car, says AskMen.com, you can find out exactly where this sweet spot is and keep the car there. But with an automatic, the car will most probably shift up before you hit the spot.
1) You'll never look bad if you can drive manual
A friend lent you his car to drive because he's too drunk to get behind the wheel. And being the nice guy that you are, you'll send the ladies home too. Imagine the embarrassment you feel when you reach the car, only to find that it is a manual. Which you can't drive because you're lazy enough to take your driving test in an automatic car. Real men have never experienced such embarrassment.

by **aural** 27th October 2009, 2:06 pm

Manual good especially you are driving ladies. You can keep touching them on their hands Embarassed

by kapitan 27th October 2009, 2:07 pm

One of the biggest disadvantage of driving a manual, .......

You cannot hold the hand of your gf while driving!!!!!

Very Happy

by **aural** 27th October 2009, 2:09 pm

kapitan wrote:One of the biggest disadvantage of driving a manual, .......

You cannot hold the hand of your gf while driving!!!!!

Can have the accidental brushes with your other GFs =x

by JuanST 27th October 2009, 2:42 pm

kapitan wrote:One of the biggest disadvantage of driving a manual, .......

You cannot hold the hand of your gf while driving!!!!!

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by ozzie75 27th October 2009, 2:55 pm

JuanST wrote:
kapitan wrote:One of the biggest disadvantage of driving a manual, .......

You cannot hold the hand of your gf while driving!!!!!

can oso play footsie.... but quite hard leh.....

then can test if your gf have the initiative to hold your hand instead of you holding hers. Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 Icon_twisted

by kapitan 27th October 2009, 2:59 pm

JuanST wrote:
kapitan wrote:One of the biggest disadvantage of driving a manual, .......

You cannot hold the hand of your gf while driving!!!!!

can oso play footsie.... but quite hard leh.....

wah difficult with Forte and Koup, with the damned gear in the middle.... but I tell you which car can... this one...

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gear shift is one steering, centre armrest can be raised and kept... drive with right hand ...cuddle with left, play footsie with left foot... Smile

....

by jimixer 27th October 2009, 3:05 pm

kapitan wrote:One of the biggest disadvantage of driving a manual, .......

You cannot hold the hand of your gf while driving!!!!!

but she can hold urs... Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 Icon_elephant

by omg2doors 27th October 2009, 3:27 pm

jl1500k wrote:
omg2doors wrote:got 1.6M for my koup...

have been driving AT for 2 years plus already.. hopefully can get used to it..

oh..how's the gear shifting? does it feel vague?

usually pp switch from manual to auto. You may regret alittle cos it take awhile to get use to manual driving.

Anyway what switch to auto since you have been driving auto for few years liao?

cos i was figuring my nx car most likely will be 4 door cos got maybe got family by then..so maybe by then old liao lose interest in shifting gear and enjoy relax driving so.. most likely auto for nx car..so now take d chance play MT first lor..plus koup 1.6 pick up not tt gd..so MT lor.

i drive my AT vios i understand my driving style..bo tai bo chi enter corner drop gear, wan accelerate also drop gear..aiyah think jus get MT la. Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 Icon_razz

by kapitan 27th October 2009, 3:29 pm

jimixer wrote:
kapitan wrote:One of the biggest disadvantage of driving a manual, .......

You cannot hold the hand of your gf while driving!!!!!

but she can hold urs...

and shift in rhythm with your shift???

by **aural** 28th October 2009, 10:03 pm

One thing i encoutered. At 4th gear ard 2.5k RPM aka 60-70km/h, i hear rattling at the area where the ipod and usb console is. Once i up the gear to 5th then no sound. Only 4th gear and only at 2.5k and abv rpm. Anyone else encounter this?

by BlackHorse 28th October 2009, 10:04 pm

i will pay attention next time on 4th gear..see got anot

by **aural** 28th October 2009, 10:08 pm

BlackHorse wrote:i will pay attention next time on 4th gear..see got anot

Thanks ya. If no sound i better go back C&C before my 5k which is a good 1 1/2 mths away.

by BlackHorse 28th October 2009, 11:02 pm

I wonder if car importers will stop importing manual cars one day..

by liplip 29th October 2009, 12:13 pm

No rattling for my Forte 4th gear up to 80km/h. If yours have sound... it will be strange because the sound is speed sensitive...

by **aural** 29th October 2009, 12:18 pm

Tested. The rattling sound also comes during 3rd and 4th gear. But only when i not pressing the accelerator but RPM is abt 2.5k, meaning already hit 2.5k RPM at 3rd or 4th gear but lift your leg from accelerator to let your car move.

by ctoh 29th October 2009, 12:29 pm

Guys, any comment on this theory while accelerating:

shift the 3rd gear @ 30km/h
shift the 4th gear @ 40km/h
shift the 5th gear @ 60km/h

by **aural** 29th October 2009, 12:40 pm

ctoh wrote:Guys, any comment on this theory while accelerating:

shift the 3rd gear @ 30km/h
shift the 4th gear @ 40km/h
shift the 5th gear @ 60km/h

Depends all on your leg. Under power shift may take more energy. Optimum is ard 2.5k-3k rpm to change gear. The speed not too sure but slightly higher than what you mentioned.

by **aural** 29th October 2009, 5:34 pm

Ok brought my xiao bai down. After test driven concluded something is wrong with the gear stick. Tmrw then bring in for servicing.

by liplip 29th October 2009, 5:39 pm

ctoh wrote:Guys, any comment on this theory while accelerating:

shift the 3rd gear @ 30km/h
shift the 4th gear @ 40km/h
shift the 5th gear @ 60km/h

Those are the current speeds with which I shift gears. If I recall correctly, all those speeds are for the levels when RPM is about 2k.

For 1st gear, I will use 15km/h or higher, because at 10km/h the engine may tremble a little although still able pick up speed.

by PillowER 29th October 2009, 6:04 pm

Hi bros, SX 1.6 Manual here.
The bitting point for our car too high and spongy.... Thus it will be my next mod...... Manual Drivers? come in so that I know how many manual cars still exist - Page 2 Icon_smile

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