Condensation phenonomen on the inside of the front headlamp

hi guys.....

u know something

i change the 4th pair during 10k servicing ...

when i reach home even with no rain or wat, the headlights fog again ...


WELL DONE CNC !!!!!

no other car have this wonderful feature!

Wow! CnC change car parts so easily ar?
(bec when I asked at Ubi, mechanic said its normal)

LK, Ubi or PG?

Kiang wrote:hi guys.....

u know something

i change the 4th pair during 10k servicing ...

when i reach home even with no rain or wat, the headlights fog again ...


WELL DONE CNC !!!!!

Wow, they were willing to replace up to 4th pair of headlamps for you...

Hmm... perhaps it's not defect after all...

So it's not defect, but it's defect design!!!

Kiang wrote:hi guys.....

u know something

i change the 4th pair during 10k servicing ...

when i reach home even with no rain or wat, the headlights fog again ...


WELL DONE CNC !!!!!

You r lucky bro... they dun even wanna change the 1st pair for me...

If got choice, I prefer they don't change anything on my ride.

Genuine straight from Korea is best.

i went to pandan gardens...

i KPKP.... i challenge them

kenincf wrote:If got choice, I prefer they don't change anything on my ride.

Genuine straight from Korea is best.

parts are from KOrea

got 1 time i waited 2 weeks for the stock to come

This is being discussed in another Forte forum in US/Canada....

Quote....

Today i was driving, it was raining and around 45degrees F and when i got out of my car the headlights where fogged up. it was like the inside was foggy or had moisture in it, anybody else experience this?


I think you do not have to worry about it. Many times fogging headlights is "normal" condition.
In past headlight assembly was sealed. BUT water did get into it, and then could not get out... so headlight was rusting.
Now, most headlights have a vent, what allows water to get in, but most important, will let it (water) get out.
When you turn on lights, heat produced will evaporate water and the light will be clear.

http://www.kia-forums.com/kia-forte-forum/54580-forte-ex-headlights-fogged-up.html

for the 4th pair,

the headlight still fogs even in hot weather haiZ

4th pair?????

Kiang wrote:hi guys.....

u know something

i change the 4th pair during 10k servicing ...

when i reach home even with no rain or wat, the headlights fog again ...


WELL DONE CNC !!!!!

bro same here.. wat u need to do is to open the cap behind the lamp and sun ur car for 1 day then all vapour sure gone... cos when they manufacture the car in kimchi land the air have more vapour then singapore so like tat loh

Kiang wrote:

kenincf wrote:If got choice, I prefer they don't change anything on my ride.

Genuine straight from Korea is best.

parts are from KOrea

got 1 time i waited 2 weeks for the stock to come

I mean the complete genuine car imported from Korea, without the need of CnC technician to remove and replace any part of the car.

kapitan wrote:This is being discussed in another Forte forum in US/Canada....

Quote....

Today i was driving, it was raining and around 45degrees F and when i got out of my car the headlights where fogged up. it was like the inside was foggy or had moisture in it, anybody else experience this?


I think you do not have to worry about it. Many times fogging headlights is "normal" condition.
In past headlight assembly was sealed. BUT water did get into it, and then could not get out... so headlight was rusting.
Now, most headlights have a vent, what allows water to get in, but most important, will let it (water) get out.
When you turn on lights, heat produced will evaporate water and the light will be clear.

http://www.kia-forums.com/kia-forte-forum/54580-forte-ex-headlights-fogged-up.html

So, it's not a defect after all...

kysoong wrote:4th pair?????

ya

change 4 pairs for me liao
still fog

Divine wrote:

Kiang wrote:hi guys.....

u know something

i change the 4th pair during 10k servicing ...

when i reach home even with no rain or wat, the headlights fog again ...


WELL DONE CNC !!!!!

bro same here.. wat u need to do is to open the cap behind the lamp and sun ur car for 1 day then all vapour sure gone... cos when they manufacture the car in kimchi land the air have more vapour then singapore so like tat loh

u mean juz open d cap where u need to change the headlights there ah?

kenincf wrote:

kapitan wrote:This is being discussed in another Forte forum in US/Canada....

Quote....

Today i was driving, it was raining and around 45degrees F and when i got out of my car the headlights where fogged up. it was like the inside was foggy or had moisture in it, anybody else experience this?


I think you do not have to worry about it. Many times fogging headlights is "normal" condition.
In past headlight assembly was sealed. BUT water did get into it, and then could not get out... so headlight was rusting.
Now, most headlights have a vent, what allows water to get in, but most important, will let it (water) get out.
When you turn on lights, heat produced will evaporate water and the light will be clear.

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hahahaah to me is still a defect whahahaha

So, it's not a defect after all...

The foggy-ness disappear after a while ... looks like it don't condense, if it condenses, then it become water in the head lights. That means, the heated hot air, which cause the fogginess has an escape route.

kapitan wrote:The foggy-ness disappear after a while ... looks like it don't condense, if it condenses, then it become water in the head lights. That means, the heated hot air, which cause the fogginess has an escape route.

mine have a bit condenes ......
like water vapour

Kiang wrote:

kapitan wrote:The foggy-ness disappear after a while ... looks like it don't condense, if it condenses, then it become water in the head lights. That means, the heated hot air, which cause the fogginess has an escape route.

mine have a bit condenes ......
like water vapour

then checks to make sure holes are not covered.... I think..

i still monitoring the situation ...

if still fogging for another 1 mth ....

go C N C again lor ...

as say SEE N SEE ma

KNS, after the windscreen cracked issue, today after rain, i also discovered both headlights foggy......

What a quality of kia we have bought....power to suprise with defects and poor quality parts......

I just collected my ride ytd....also got condensation....

I suppose everyone compliant about this, including me

Hahhaa, my car is 1 day old and i can see condensation in the headlamps already.

Must be due to heavy rain!

Anyway, is this really important? Not really bothered by it.

If no safety implication i think should be ok ba?

It's considered as one of the features of the car.

Do like me, just accept it.

KingJerry wrote:Hahhaa, my car is 1 day old and i can see condensation in the headlamps already.

Must be due to heavy rain!

Anyway, is this really important? Not really bothered by it.

If no safety implication i think should be ok ba?

you may just be able to switch to HID and tP will not notice.....

i remember somewhere in the manual mentioned condensation on the lamps r normal... anyway i also have this "problem" but if replacing them doesn't help i will leave it as it is i guess..

Really is normal for the foggy condition? Hmmm.....my previous rides don't have this problem at all.....

Is the condensation caused by poor sealing, will it caused rust?

I think the most important thing is if the headlamps are covered by warranty?

I got same problem also... Discovered it yesterday night after driving in the rain..

Have anyone solved the problem yet?

Will sealing it with silicon help?

fog ah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fog again n agian ah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now rainy season

sure alot of bros have this fog fog

Most of the times forget to check the headlights.....last night finally I remembered to take a look......

ok... put me on the list. My car have the misty lamps too....

got foggy lamps but nvm la...i'm fine with it

It's ok.. I saw 2 BMWs with foggy lamps too! I don't think this problem is unique to fortes only!

My Forte headlamps also fog on Friday after running under heavy rain. Going back to C&C tomorrow to complain.

I think when the engine is hot and the sudden "moisture" will cause the lamp to fog...

Fogged-up headlamps after driving in rain the whole day I can understand. Trouble is, the Forte's headlamps fog-up at the slightest opportunity; passing showers, light shower, a short spell of heavy downpour and even car wash with the bonnet closed... WTF?! This just can't be right!

I've just been looking at the headlamp housing yesterday pm and cannot figure out where exactly the water seepage occurs. So WTF for the caps/covers for the bulbs have rubbers gaskets? Doesn't serve it's purpose.

And what's worse, the metallic coating on the reflectors are starting to blur and lose its shine/polish from the cycles of condensation and fogging up. Simply not acceptable. PERIOD.

waypoint wrote:Fogged-up headlamps after driving in rain the whole day I can understand. Trouble is, the Forte's headlamps fog-up at the slightest opportunity; passing showers, light shower, a short spell of heavy downpour and even car wash with the bonnet closed... WTF?! This just can't be right!

I've just been looking at the headlamp housing yesterday pm and cannot figure out where exactly the water seepage occurs. So WTF for the caps/covers for the bulbs have rubbers gaskets? Doesn't serve it's purpose.

And what's worse, the metallic coating on the reflectors are starting to blur and lose its shine/polish from the cycles of condensation and fogging up. Simply not acceptable. PERIOD.

Sounds quite bad for you.. Lucky i'm quite a car noob. So i try to be oblivious to such stuff.. Make myself happier (or deluded)..

Recently i discover my Forte headlamps fog after running under rain. But it disappear the next following day.

Condensation happens when the surface is cold. Maybe when driving the forward facing wind cool down the headlight surface so much that it causes the air inside the housing to condens.

If you look closely enough behind the housing, there is L-shap rubber hose which allow air to vent out of the casing.

I think the problem with water vapour is the surrounding humid air flows into the vent too easily. What we can try is to extent the rubber hose to places with dry air intake. Eg. Beside the heated engine. Then more dry air is sucked into the headlight housing to reduce the effect.

This is just my thought...

its normal for a forte to have condensation. KIA, the power to surprise (you with condensation).

So the 'vent thing-a-ma-jig' is a feature to address this other 'feature', huh?













Still considered normal? Fogged-up... Or to me, these fugged-up headlights are look nothing like normal to me... I couldn't get any good photos of the blurry coating that's starting to build-up on the free-form reflector of the pole-lights and low-beams...



BR,
w a y

waypoint wrote:So the 'vent thing-a-ma-jig' is a feature to address this other 'feature', huh?













Still considered normal? Fogged-up... Or to me, these fugged-up headlights are look nothing like normal to me... I couldn't get any good photos of the blurry coating that's starting to build-up on the free-form reflector of the pole-lights and low-beams...



BR,
w a y

these picture look so familar to me ....
now the 4th headlamp still like tat

wow way.. your fogged-up H/L quite bad..

think that is the free "fog-lamp" given by KIA lolz

my H/L does fogged occasionally but not that serious..

Ar-boh when I found out about their 'declaration' in their pamphlet I got so worked-up... And initially, the people at Eunos Svc Centre had even told me that KIA was looking into it and there'd be a mass replacement for all customers facing the issue.

Yesterday, while washing my car, same bloody thing again... Drove out of the lot to the washing bay, no issue; all nice and clear. Once the first splash of water onto the forward half of the car to pre-rinse without even opening the bonnet, headlamps start fugging-up again; just a matter of tua-liap or suay-liap water droplets only. KNN!

It's like as if C&C/KIA thinks we are so hard-up for brand new headlamps or something. If I had a choice, I'd rather have as little to do with their mechanics as possible... Go in to resolve one issue, come back out with 2 or more new ones resulting from their screwing up to resolve; screws never replace, lah... scratches, nicks and dings lah... *sighs*

BR,
w a y

hmm.. i think there might be some crack.. thats the only possible reason.

my headlight there's condesation too. but its only happened after i change to diamond vision. no doubt. its way hotter thus leading to that.. but seldom it will fog.. so it doesnt matter to me.

better change the whole headlight.

hmmm i'm new to car ownership, but is fogging headlights when washing the car normal for other brand/makes?
or does this happens to only forte?