Condensation phenonomen on the inside of the front headlamp

It was raining just now on my way back. After I reached my destination and parked my car, I accidentally realized there is condensation inside my front left headlamp. Though, the front right headlamp is ok. Does that mean there is a crack somewhere which let water go inside?

Anybody encountered the same thing on their car?

I think it is one of the common problem highlighted at the thread Problems/Enquireies/Concerns...

seems like not sealed properly...

kenincf wrote:It was raining just now on my way back. After I reached my destination and parked my car, I accidentally realized there is condensation inside my front left headlamp. Though, the front right headlamp is ok. Does that mean there is a crack somewhere which let water go inside?

Anybody encountered the same thing on their car?

it was hilight before, looks like either ur rubber harden n crack, or they didnt fit properly, probably the bulb holder they didnt turn to seal off also... when u go back 1k, tell them.

i face the same problem...

they change a new headlights for u ...

i waiting to change as the stock is here

it took them 2 weeks to order

Just thought of sharing the photos with you guys...

Good sharing n thanks

i have this problem too.. !!!=((( i thought only me

bro.... i facing the same problem hahahaa
best part is that wheni wash car time, also face the problem....

juz inform them that u face the problem during ur servicing

kenincf wrote:Just thought of sharing the photos with you guys...

bro same pattern as u but i had it on both headlights

May I ask how old r your cars already? (before you find out this problem).... Juz wanna see how long after collecting the car this thing happen....

i faced it only 3 days after collection of may car when my car damm dirty deni wash lor...

the best part is that wheni do servicing time, the change my fog light instead of my headlights... hahaha
so delay until now lor...

My KCF is a few weeks old only. My odo is 600KM+. Actually I never pay attention to it until yesterday, I accidentally saw it after raining.

Next week I will go for my 1st servicing. I will certainly highlight it to CnC.

Could it be because they were using low quality headlights? Hmm...

kia included fishtanks in our cars!!...hehehe

anyway they should change the headlights...

kenincf wrote:My KCF is a few weeks old only. My odo is 600KM+. Actually I never pay attention to it until yesterday, I accidentally saw it after raining.

Next week I will go for my 1st servicing. I will certainly highlight it to CnC.

Could it be because they were using low quality headlights? Hmm...

i doubt so for the low quality headlights....
shld be quite good

im also have this issue long before my 1st service, now 2nd servicing also done liao but still havent inform them, cos i wait wait, maybe later got led than change. haha...fat hope...

Hello kenincf/ Kiang/ Divine/ nocash, jus wanna check if you guys still having this problem and did C&C change the whole headlight for you?

Cos I oso got this problem...
Highlighted to C&C during my 1K service and their TE ask me if the condensation is there all the time? I frankly told them only when the engine is hot and he told me it is NORMAL!!!

I still haven't inform them, like what you said, sometimes have sometime no....

jimixer wrote:Hello kenincf/ Kiang/ Divine/ nocash, jus wanna check if you guys still having this problem and did C&C change the whole headlight for you?

Cos I oso got this problem...
Highlighted to C&C during my 1K service and their TE ask me if the condensation is there all the time? I frankly told them only when the engine is hot and he told me it is NORMAL!!!

this 'no-can-do'. experience it with my previous two ride and they changed it with no question asked. Last being from Tan Chong when the service engr walking to my car first thing tell me he will change my right headlight without me knowing there was condensation in it. first class

Its normal is a big minus point, lazy to change for you tell him to state so.

I went to Ubi for the 1K servicing... Frankly I find the people there not very helpful... Will try Leng Kee for the next servicing...

Basically, there are 2 main things they cannot do...
"THIS cannot; THAT also cannot!"

i have the same problem. both headlights.
shld highlight for my 5K servicing

Before u drive in to complaint...park at the roadside first, pour water on the headlight, only when condensation appear then drive in and bring the SE to see on the spot...

jimixer wrote:Hello kenincf/ Kiang/ Divine/ nocash, jus wanna check if you guys still having this problem and did C&C change the whole headlight for you?

Cos I oso got this problem...
Highlighted to C&C during my 1K service and their TE ask me if the condensation is there all the time? I frankly told them only when the engine is hot and he told me it is NORMAL!!!

sad to say i still facing this problem even i change 3rd pair headlights liao !!!!
damm piss off....

somemore the poor workmanship of installation cos the headlight to have scratches too..

If anyone of u keen to DIY to seal up the hole to prevent fogging. Can do a quick method of removing the headlight assembly, pour soapy water all over the SEAL area and blow air into the head light assembly. If u see big bubble coming out of some seal, that is the leak... Ur breadth may contribute even more particles or fog in to the headlight assembly... lol

Which Svc Center you went to? Ubi dun even wanna change it for me...

Kiang wrote:

jimixer wrote:Hello kenincf/ Kiang/ Divine/ nocash, jus wanna check if you guys still having this problem and did C&C change the whole headlight for you?

Cos I oso got this problem...
Highlighted to C&C during my 1K service and their TE ask me if the condensation is there all the time? I frankly told them only when the engine is hot and he told me it is NORMAL!!!

sad to say i still facing this problem even i change 3rd pair headlights liao !!!!
damm piss off....

somemore the poor workmanship of installation cos the headlight to have scratches too..

Guys dun complaining anymore, one very simple solution, drill at least 2 holes behind the casing will do. Problem confirm solve. These 2 holes will allow the water vapour inside to leak out instead of condensing inside your lamp.

All this complaints about poor workmanship by the AD is giving me cold feets.

My previous car agent is pretty good. Don't have much complaint against them....car is always in good condition, they know exactly where the problem is and how to fix it.

They just stick a piece of diagnostic equipment to read I dunno what.....and they know exactly what is wrong. The CS will always call me and give me options,......and I decide if I want to go ahead with the repair or replacement of certain parts. Over the years, I came to trust the CS.

I wonder if the Forte has such a diagnostic equipment. And now beginning to wonder if the Service Centre guy is really lousy or that the incident is isolated and we are amplifying small complaint into insurmountable proportion.

Ha ha ha... Actually, this is not really a problem so big that I cannot live with...
Probably being a proud first-time owner, I am just overly anxious and want my ride to be PERFECT!

Probably a few years later, got head lamp can liao...
Ke ke ke...

jimixer wrote:Which Svc Center you went to? Ubi dun even wanna change it for me...

Kiang wrote:

jimixer wrote:Hello kenincf/ Kiang/ Divine/ nocash, jus wanna check if you guys still having this problem and did C&C change the whole headlight for you?

Cos I oso got this problem...
Highlighted to C&C during my 1K service and their TE ask me if the condensation is there all the time? I frankly told them only when the engine is hot and he told me it is NORMAL!!!

sad to say i still facing this problem even i change 3rd pair headlights liao !!!!
damm piss off....

somemore the poor workmanship of installation cos the headlight to have scratches too..

i went to pandan gardens ... the main warehouse...
quite piss off actually .... i complain to them that y other forte dun have such problem...
when i compare to another forte besides me....

he LL change for me a new set which is the 3rd sets..
best part, when i wash car, the headlights fog again...

will complain again when i go servicing soon....
they are juz testing my patiences.....
can play big big if i wanted to ...

juz really unhappy with such poor services they provide to us...
well even with such nice car

really unhappy with the services they provide

Ya, totally agree! Their service is simply LOUSY!

Maybe that's why Mercedes withdraw the sole distributor rights from C&C...
Maybe KIA should seek compensation from C&C for giving FORTE a bad name!

Thanks Kiang, will go Pandan to make noise...
We cannot go together, else they hv excuse to say, "There, he also got the same problem wat?"...

Will buy Pandan cake there to smash their face if they tell me "it's normal" again!!!

from what i see, Kia service centre is lousy.
think it is time i find other service places...but scared warranty void leh...

If CnC is unable to solve the prob, it's time to write in to Kia Kr. When writing in, make it a point to highlight the quality of CnC service quality. That should set some balls rolling or maybe even some heads rollings.......

jimixer wrote:Hello kenincf/ Kiang/ Divine/ nocash, jus wanna check if you guys still having this problem and did C&C change the whole headlight for you?

Cos I oso got this problem...
Highlighted to C&C during my 1K service and their TE ask me if the condensation is there all the time? I frankly told them only when the engine is hot and he told me it is NORMAL!!!

Hello jimixer,

Sorry for late reply. I had it rectified during my 1st servicing. They replaced the headlight for me and problem solved.

hi all,
We need to use lots of time and energy to make them retify, most important is that they do it free.
Nice one!

they have ready headlamp stock? if have i also wanna change, mine also same problem.

Better call them early to replenish the stock since more car are out on the road now.

Wow, yesterday collect new car, evening saw the condensation on both L & R. I not the only one too who collected yesterday and has these problem

Can those who already had their headlamp replace, is it possible if you all uncrew and take out the headlamp and check if there is drill hole around the plastic area.

Damn, I told them during my 1k servicing about the water vapour in the headlamps. The darn headlamps fogged up again this Afternoon after the rain

Bro, which Svc Ctr u go to?
Hope to get mine replaced too...

kenincf wrote:
Hello jimixer,

Sorry for late reply. I had it rectified during my 1st servicing. They replaced the headlight for me and problem solved.

Found my ride also have tis issue, wil go for repair during 1K service. How they actualy solve tis issue? Juz replace whole headlight unit?

jimixer wrote:Bro, which Svc Ctr u go to?
Hope to get mine replaced too...

kenincf wrote:
Hello jimixer,

Sorry for late reply. I had it rectified during my 1st servicing. They replaced the headlight for me and problem solved.

I went to UBI.

Well, being quite an avid watch enthusiast, I have encountered watches which have been tested water-resistant with the seals all intact but would still fog up when subject to fast temperature fluctuations...

For those of you still contending with this problem, try this...

From behind each head-lamp assembly remove one of the round screw-down caps. Now, with your engine running, turn on your headlights and put them in high beam. Leave it like so for about 10-mins or so for all moisture to evaporate. After the 10-mins or so is up, screw the covers back on each head-lamp assy. Be cautious. Especially so for the left head-lamp assy where the battery is; not alot of space to work that cap in.

Hope for the best.

BR,
w a y

It seems like it's true... It's not a defect...

If it is not a defect, then why the CnC mechanic change the entire head lamp for some bros here - expensive for them, right?

I'd complained about this during my 1k servicing. Mechanic said it is normal - just turn on the head lights to "evaporate" the mositure inside

AIya...

I collected my car YTD.. drive frm Pandan to Serangoon... then the condensation appear...

Called SE this am.. SE say highlight to them during 1 K Servicing

i was at Mancando the other day fixing up my scuffy... it was raining heavily and literally have 2 more extra "FOGGED-LIGHTS"!

One of the mechanics there saw me taking pic of the fogged headlights and started chatting with me... I told them C&C told me it is normal and he immediately said, "No lah, how come car of other makes dun hv such prob!"

I dun agree with C&C argument that this problem is common in Fortes means tt this is normal... Bear in mind there are other Fortes without this problem!

Similarly, there are cases of cracked windscreen, is C&C going to tell us that other Fortes' windscreen oso crack wat... So, windscreen cracking is NORMAL lah?!

ctoh wrote:If it is not a defect, then why the CnC mechanic change the entire head lamp for some bros here - expensive for them, right?

I'd complained about this during my 1k servicing. Mechanic said it is normal - just turn on the head lights to "evaporate" the mositure inside

I'm also not sure whether it's really a defect or not. According to some of my friends, it's normal that the condensation will appear when there is temperature difference between inside and outside.

Maybe I will ask my friends who own other cars about this.

My thoughts exactly - why other cars do not have such condensation???

Ours are headlamp condemnation!!!

ctoh wrote:My thoughts exactly - why other cars do not have such condensation???

Ours are headlamp condemnation!!!

I agree with this

Though its pretty normal for condensation to occur when there is a hugh temp shock ( I.E at night very heavy rain then morning big big sun), the frequency of occurrence for Forte is jus about TOO HIGH... .Like the Cracked windshield...

Material used for Lens, Epoxy used to seal then housing and Lens do play a big part.
The exhaust valve behind the housing for air + moisture to escape should be robust enough....
Should petition and raised to C&C!