Who would be at fault?

I was driving down Claymore Hill turning left to Stevens Road yesterday, I was the first car waiting for the light to turn green. Once the light turned green, I moved forward to turn left then had to jam break because this merc beat the red light and was speeding down the road. Luckily my friend was in the car with me and he shouted for me to stop, otherwise I would have hit him smack right in the middle of his car. Good thing I wasn't going fast as I had come from a stationary position.

But if I had hit him, who would have been at fault? I am very very sure the turning light was green.

Just for info only.... never ever want a repeat!

unless it is captured unequivocally that he is beating red light...it will be 50/50...

in this case, get witnesses other than ur passenger to prove that urs is green and his is red......

better if there is a red light camera....

if it is 50/50, u lose.....his car far more expensive than urs....

u have to have evidence he beat the red light. if so u should be 100% rite. if not....then its rather debutable

correct.. in this case you will need some witnesses to prove that when you move off it is green light.

In this case, if you are hitting the merc rear.. then you are at fault.. because there's no specify evidence of him beating red light..

now LTA have deploy multiple CCTV near cross junction traffic lights.. if there's such accident occurs.. then lookout for this camera and report LTA to replay it and claim against insurance..

if you did not see such camera, then u will be at the losing end.. depending the driver admit is his fault and he pay for his dmg and u pay for his dmg or he fully point the blame on u and claim 100% thru u..

afraid of such incident, then install blackbox.. it does helped in such incident and u can 100% claim against him

I would have hit his front left side, not back, if I didn't break in time.... good thing i was going slow then!

in traffic rules.. any car turning must give way..

in your scenario if without evidences or eye witness.. and your car is turning.. means you are still in the losing end

always remember "Right Hand Rules"

good thing u didnt go to 100km/hr in 11secs.....

I would have hit his front left side, not back, if I didn't break in time.... good thing i was going slow then!

Base on Barometer Of Liability Agreement. Cars turning will be at fault, although traffic light is in your favour. Cos the other party might be write that when he pass by the traffic was ember.

http://www.gia.org.sg/pdfs/Barometer%20of%20Liability%20Chart%20v3%20dated%201%20Jun%2008.pdf

however, its a controlled x junction. if its always the turning car at fault, no one will bother abt the traffic lights since pple turning will be scared/intimidated?

even at traffic ember, the car should not be speeding as he should be already at slow speed.....

juz my 2cents hehe

Yah, I agree with you to that. Cars shouldn't be speeding when approaching traffic lights, but ultimately its driver who decide.

That link I gave is the chart where all insurance will base on if an accident happen. Believe me some of them are not fair. Final advice is if an accident do happen try to get an eye witness, not the person in the car. As for Patsy liability is on him.

oh well.. guess have to continue to be more alert

so scary... better go slow.. hehee.. and alert yes.

can i ask a qn here too?

if merging lanes, yr car is faster and ahead of the other car merging 2 lanes to 1 and this slower car instead of slowing down, speeds up and bang yr car at the side.. who's at fault? the faster one or the slower car?

50/50

Reason: Both party do not want to give way. Base on BOLA Chart Figure 18.

lawrenceke wrote:can i ask a qn here too?

if merging lanes, yr car is faster and ahead of the other car merging 2 lanes to 1 and this slower car instead of slowing down, speeds up and bang yr car at the side.. who's at fault? the faster one or the slower car?

give way to car on the right.....

kapitan wrote:

lawrenceke wrote:can i ask a qn here too?

if merging lanes, yr car is faster and ahead of the other car merging 2 lanes to 1 and this slower car instead of slowing down, speeds up and bang yr car at the side.. who's at fault? the faster one or the slower car?

give way to car on the right.....

give way to the car at the right even if he is half a car length slower than me? if i slow down, become road hog leh..

lawrenceke wrote:

kapitan wrote:

lawrenceke wrote:can i ask a qn here too?

if merging lanes, yr car is faster and ahead of the other car merging 2 lanes to 1 and this slower car instead of slowing down, speeds up and bang yr car at the side.. who's at fault? the faster one or the slower car?

give way to car on the right.....

give way to the car at the right even if he is half a car length slower than me? if i slow down, become road hog leh..

have patience and give way, you will feel better.... if you step more on your accelerator, you get angry... what's losing a few seconds....

kapitan wrote:

lawrenceke wrote:

kapitan wrote:

lawrenceke wrote:can i ask a qn here too?

if merging lanes, yr car is faster and ahead of the other car merging 2 lanes to 1 and this slower car instead of slowing down, speeds up and bang yr car at the side.. who's at fault? the faster one or the slower car?

give way to car on the right.....

give way to the car at the right even if he is half a car length slower than me? if i slow down, become road hog leh..

have patience and give way, you will feel better.... if you step more on your accelerator, you get angry... what's losing a few seconds....

by road merging rules.... whoever is ahead has the right of way... but if i am ahead and the fellow beside me accelerate...and if it is an iffy situation, i will slow down and let him pass.... no point spending too much moolah on a side collision which will definitely be 50-50 judgement. safety or pride.... safety wins....

especially if the other fellow is driving a bus or a lorry.....

i encounted 2 times at the same merging road. once was a modded suzuki swift driven by a malay, i was ahead of him by 3/4 car length, signaled and was half into the merging lane then he just horn me n nearly hit my back.. i slow down n let him pass.. he was on the same route to my hse. followed him far and noticed him driving recklessly. regretted giving way to him..

lawrenceke wrote:i encounted 2 times at the same merging road. once was a modded suzuki swift driven by a malay, i was ahead of him by 3/4 car length, signaled and was half into the merging lane then he just horn me n nearly hit my back.. i slow down n let him pass.. he was on the same route to my hse. followed him far and noticed him driving recklessly. regretted giving way to him..

u did the right thing..... dun regret.... if he wants to die... he can die alone.... no need for u to accompany him....

lawrenceke wrote:i encounted 2 times at the same merging road. once was a modded suzuki swift driven by a malay, i was ahead of him by 3/4 car length, signaled and was half into the merging lane then he just horn me n nearly hit my back.. i slow down n let him pass.. he was on the same route to my hse. followed him far and noticed him driving recklessly. regretted giving way to him..

Is that necessary....

Install an in car camera... will save a lot headaches explaining....

I agree. Juz give way. Dun eva feel regret. At least your car is safe from accident.

drive carefully...lots of unreasonable drivers out there

if u really want to be right, then be on the "right side" of the merging lane

patsy wrote:I was driving down Claymore Hill turning left to Stevens Road yesterday, I was the first car waiting for the light to turn green. Once the light turned green, I moved forward to turn left then had to jam break because this merc beat the red light and was speeding down the road. Luckily my friend was in the car with me and he shouted for me to stop, otherwise I would have hit him smack right in the middle of his car. Good thing I wasn't going fast as I had come from a stationary position.

But if I had hit him, who would have been at fault? I am very very sure the turning light was green.

Just for info only.... never ever want a repeat!

make sure all the cars have stopped at the traffic light before moving off from turning lane.

It's sad that sometimes not our fault but still pay the price for their reckless driving.

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