Complaints with 1.6 EX(A)

by boomboom 22nd January 2010, 10:44 am

Does anyone has any complaints with the new batch of 1.6 Ex (A). l believe the safetry for Ex is compromised as compared to 1.6 SX. Currently, 1.6 Ex (A) has 2 disc/2 drum brakes instead of 4 disc brakes. It has 1 airbag instead of 2.

by kapitan 22nd January 2010, 10:49 am

boomboom wrote:Does anyone has any complaints with the new batch of 1.6 Ex (A). l believe the safetry for Ex is compromised as compared to 1.6 SX. Currently, 1.6 Ex (A) has 2 disc/2 drum brakes instead of 4 disc brakes. It has 1 airbag instead of 2.

U did not purchase the car blindly... or did you!!...

by **melburn** 22nd January 2010, 11:00 am

Or did u encounter a lousy SE which didn't even explain the specs before you sign on the dotted line?

Better to do some research before committing.

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by Corgel 22nd January 2010, 11:01 am

boomboom wrote:Does anyone has any complaints with the new batch of 1.6 Ex (A). l believe the safetry for Ex is compromised as compared to 1.6 SX. Currently, 1.6 Ex (A) has 2 disc/2 drum brakes instead of 4 disc brakes. It has 1 airbag instead of 2.

so have u bought it yet? there's a reason why the ex is cheaper than the sx...

by boomboom 22nd January 2010, 11:03 am

Thanks for the response bros. My SE has explained to me, but ultimately the decision is mine. i am just wondering if safety is greatly compromised with 1 airbag and 2 drum brakes with the EX. Especially during heavy rain. Of course l will drive safety, but there is always an element of what if...

by kapitan 22nd January 2010, 11:03 am

boomboom wrote:Thanks for the response bros. My SE has explained to me, but ultimately the decision is mine. i am just wondering if safety is greatly compromised with 1 airbag and 2 drum brakes with the EX. Especially during heavy rain. Of course l will drive safety, but there is always an element of what if...

u first time car buyer??

by pessimizt 22nd January 2010, 11:05 am

I own an EX and have no complaints on that though.
I mean it should not be complaint......EX comes with those features.

You have a choice of what you want to buy. Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) 332362

by geraldtay 22nd January 2010, 11:07 am

2x disc u can still pay to install but it'd cost quite abit.
but extra airbag i heard there's no way to install.

well, i weighed my concerns, and the extra value i got for topping up 5k to get the sx was definately worth it.

but i'd say to each his own, different people look out for different things.

cheers

by boomboom 22nd January 2010, 11:11 am

l am a first time buyer and l get an inking feeling when safety is compromised, especially when the car is to be used to ferry your love ones. But l am in a dilemma between EX and SA, cos l only want the safety features but l cando without the gargets of SA.

by kapitan 22nd January 2010, 11:15 am

This Forte must be the 14th or 15th car I have owned and driven....

My previous cars, well back then there were no airbags,... and we survived... my previous Mits Airtrek was drum brake rear,... well, I survived too... in fact most of my previous cars were with rear drum brakes.... and my current other car has 1 airbag and that's on the pax side....

If you are so concerned, I would recommend either bus or MRT, no worries about safety there....

by pessimizt 22nd January 2010, 11:16 am

If safety is your main concern, SX is definitely better than EX. Go for SX. No regrets. Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) 332362

by nothing 22nd January 2010, 3:54 pm

If that's so worrying to u, get the SX then.....if safety is compromised, LTA wouldn't approve the sale of such rides...

by liplip 22nd January 2010, 4:04 pm

Airbags are not mandatory safety equipment, and never will be. Seat belts when used are the stronger guarantee to safety.

If you read up about airbags, you will know that it can kill you at worst, and at best leave you painful ears and eyes because of the chemical explosion to create air for the bag.

by bigconvoy 22nd January 2010, 4:19 pm

i think u shld refrain from saying compromised... as what some pple have said previously cars don't even have those features...
as to EX and SX differences that's the SE's job to explain to you the key differences and for you to understand and process to decide on the car you want.
if in the end you decided on EX due to price/feature then that's it... no point saying things like compromised, etc...

by whyeme 23rd January 2010, 1:30 am

alamak my dear boomboom,

a person who drives a benz with 10 airbags but chiong like mad and end up wrapped around a tree or building also cant guarantee wont die...my previous 2 cars no airbags (but got many plastic bags in the glove compartment Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_biggrin

) and so far i still safe...just drive safely.

rear drum brakes are sufficient for bread and butter cars like ours

unless you intend to turbo or supercharge your forte in future then all round discs brakes becum crucial.

by dandeana21 23rd January 2010, 1:48 am

unless u r like de driver who drives n crashed until the engine pops out? Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_twisted

by kqkhlj 23rd January 2010, 1:56 am

me driving a EX for 3 months, nothing to complaint except for my car no. still yet to strike 4D.... Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_razz

by mehmehhh 23rd January 2010, 2:01 am

it all goes down to what u r comfortable with...
2 airbag & 4 disc brakes dun means sure wun die...
1 airbag & 2 rear drum brakes dun means sure die........
I mean in the cause of a serious accident...
Btw I am an EX owner, we pay for what we need....

by alex86 23rd January 2010, 9:53 am

Lol. Airbags very pantang lehz. Pray u dont get to see it Very Happy

by merkava 23rd January 2010, 10:06 am

The best safety is to practise safe driving, even u drive a picanto w.o airbag, ABS, rear drum brakes still can be safe...

by beckham23 24th January 2010, 12:40 am

The EX forte is dun have sport rims?

i heard that is a steel cover?

by VAG 25th January 2010, 11:12 am

There is one more defect caused by C&C. The stock car alarm is installed wrongly on EX with the activation of central locking using brake pedal. This feature is redundant as EX already come with speed sensing door locking when > 30Km. This wrongly installed feature has caused some complains from my passenager when they cannot open the door properly while the door knob has already unlock.

FYI: For those DIYer, just remove the pedal sensing pin on the stock alarm connector.

by liplip 25th January 2010, 12:25 pm

VAG wrote:There is one more defect caused by C&C. The stock car alarm is installed wrongly on EX with the activation of central locking using brake pedal. This feature is redundant as EX already come with speed sensing door locking when > 30Km. This wrongly installed feature has caused some complains from my passenager when they cannot open the door properly while the door knob has already unlock.

FYI: For those DIYer, just remove the pedal sensing pin on the stock alarm connector.

Does the newer batch come with alarm? My batch no alarm, if any alarm they are all Singapore fitted and arranged by sales agent.

by VAG 25th January 2010, 3:05 pm

liplip wrote:
VAG wrote:There is one more defect caused by C&C. The stock car alarm is installed wrongly on EX with the activation of central locking using brake pedal. This feature is redundant as EX already come with speed sensing door locking when > 30Km. This wrongly installed feature has caused some complains from my passenager when they cannot open the door properly while the door knob has already unlock.

FYI: For those DIYer, just remove the pedal sensing pin on the stock alarm connector.

Does the newer batch come with alarm? My batch no alarm, if any alarm they are all Singapore fitted and arranged by sales agent.

I collected mine at end of Oct. The aftermarket alarm and key comes with a KIA logo. So it's one of the KIA stock alarm for cars without build in security system. Anyway. the C&C technician should study properly before fitting it. A common sign for local car dealer technicians Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_evil

by liplip 25th January 2010, 3:44 pm

I see, my aftermarket alarm that I installed outside has locking when brake is stepped, but it gives a 20 seconds windows after you have unlocked before the brake-to-lock works again. It does sound irritating if it always locks on brake use... Free stuff always not what you expect it to be...

by kqkhlj 27th January 2010, 11:53 pm

Mine collect @ Oct also, no alarm, no RS.

Fixed them outside and its way cheaper than C&C.

by liplip 28th January 2010, 7:33 am

I didn't want reverse sensors also... the ti ti ti sound is annoying, and it does not make it any safer because it may not be able to detect narrow objects like poles and beams. Once I reversed into a motorcycle lot by mistake, bang, but no regrets cos the bumper had no mark whatsoever, continue to drive off like nothing happened.

by joepele 28th January 2010, 9:10 am

liplip wrote:I didn't want reverse sensors also... the ti ti ti sound is annoying, and it does not make it any safer because it may not be able to detect narrow objects like poles and beams. Once I reversed into a motorcycle lot by mistake, bang, but no regrets cos the bumper had no mark whatsoever, continue to drive off like nothing happened.

http://www.proxel.com/

http://www.parkingdynamics.co.uk/

by jeff2510 28th January 2010, 9:27 am

dandeana21 wrote:unless u r like de driver who drives n crashed until the engine pops out?

U mean that "one" who crash in the MSCP izzit lol!

by Forte2010 6th February 2010, 11:33 pm

geraldtay wrote:2x disc u can still pay to install but it'd cost quite abit.
but extra airbag i heard there's no way to install.

well, i weighed my concerns, and the extra value i got for topping up 5k to get the sx was definately worth it.

but i'd say to each his own, different people look out for different things.

cheers

2x disc can still pay to install ? Anybody know will it affect the ABS system?

i mean teh changing from drum brake to disc brake....

by rainbow 7th February 2010, 12:07 am

Sx will give u no regrets and the difference between ex and sx is so small for all the good thing in sx.

by VAG 7th February 2010, 7:52 am

This should be everthing for the rear disc brake assembly: Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_idea

1	Rotor, Brake	R #.6 58411 2K300 L #.6 58411 2K300	$103.33 $103.33
2	Hub Assy, Wheel	R #1.0 52730 1M000 L #1.0 52730 1M000 Includes R&R Rotor	$192.65 $192.65
3	Bolt, Lug	R 58389 1M000 L 58389 1M000 Included w/Wheel Hub Assy	$2.35 $2.35
4	Brake Assy, Parking	R 58270 1M300 L 58250 1M300	$193.05 $193.10
5	Shoe Kit, Parking Brake	#.8 58305 1MA00 #w/Rotor Removed	$58.45
6	Plate, Rear Backing	R #.2 58252 1M300 L #.2 58251 1M300	$81.15 $81.15
7	Brake Assy, Rear	R #.5 58230 1M300 L #.5 58210 1M300	$262.40 $262.40
8	Caliper, Brake	R .5 58311 1MA00 L .5 58310 1MA00	$231.25 $231.25
9	Pad Kit, Brake	#1.0 58302 1MA00	$75.00
10	Hose, Brake	R #.3 58738 1M300 L #.3 58737 1M300	$38.00 $38.00
11	Sensor, Rear ABS	R #.6 59930 1M300 L #.6 59910 1M300	$56.80 $56.80

* All price in US$

by Forte002 7th February 2010, 2:44 pm

I also want to complain... Buy SX but they give me 1.6L engine instead of 2L engine... I believe performance is compromised... Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_lol

by mosabnet 7th February 2010, 3:12 pm

am thinking to change the rear drum Brakes to Disc Brakes and currently am searching for the rear Disk Brake of Hyundayi Elantra and see if it can fit on our Forte as the Elantra and the Forte Share lots of Parts.

by liplip 8th February 2010, 11:19 am

Forte002 wrote:I also want to complain... Buy SX but they give me 1.6L engine instead of 2L engine... I believe performance is compromised...

Like that also can?

What you expect them to do? Send your car for engine change? If can then request for a turbocharged 3 litre.

by Forte002 8th February 2010, 11:24 am

liplip wrote:
Forte002 wrote:I also want to complain... Buy SX but they give me 1.6L engine instead of 2L engine... I believe performance is compromised...

Like that also can?

What you expect them to do? Send your car for engine change? If can then request for a turbocharged 3 litre.

Haha... Don't you get my joke? Just like what the TS asking for... paying for one price but want the features for another price.

by liplip 8th February 2010, 1:36 pm

I got it the first time round, no worries bro.

It's the tone that matters, cannot see it with postings in a forum.

But if the Koup can customize to a 3 litre turbocharged engine, swee liao... can sell for a million dollars...

by whyeme 8th February 2010, 4:36 pm

liplip wrote:I got it the first time round, no worries bro.

It's the tone that matters, cannot see it with postings in a forum.

But if the Koup can customize to a 3 litre turbocharged engine, swee liao... can sell for a million dollars...

hmm...3 litre turbocharged engine overkill...road tax killer and drinks petrol...

if koup got an engine like the volkswagon 1.2litre turbo or 1.4litre turbo would be really great...cheap rd tax, good fc...my dream machine! Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_biggrin

by liplip 9th February 2010, 11:43 am

whyeme wrote:
liplip wrote:I got it the first time round, no worries bro.

It's the tone that matters, cannot see it with postings in a forum.

But if the Koup can customize to a 3 litre turbocharged engine, swee liao... can sell for a million dollars...

hmm...3 litre turbocharged engine overkill...road tax killer and drinks petrol...

if koup got an engine like the volkswagon 1.2litre turbo or 1.4litre turbo would be really great...cheap rd tax, good fc...my dream machine!

Don't think it is all beautiful loh... My colleagues say the insurance will kill you... a 1.4 TSI produces 170bhp, its a fast car and more insurance needed for the turbo in it.

by whyeme 9th February 2010, 11:49 am

liplip wrote:
whyeme wrote:
liplip wrote:I got it the first time round, no worries bro.

It's the tone that matters, cannot see it with postings in a forum.

But if the Koup can customize to a 3 litre turbocharged engine, swee liao... can sell for a million dollars...

hmm...3 litre turbocharged engine overkill...road tax killer and drinks petrol...

if koup got an engine like the volkswagon 1.2litre turbo or 1.4litre turbo would be really great...cheap rd tax, good fc...my dream machine!

Don't think it is all beautiful loh... My colleagues say the insurance will kill you... a 1.4 TSI produces 170bhp, its a fast car and more insurance needed for the turbo in it.

haha think you might have misunderstood me

my dream machine is koup body with something like 1.4TSI engine

3 litre turbo should be lagi worse insurance? Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_smile

by aryanz82 10th February 2010, 11:33 pm

Apart from the cracked windscreen, suspensions which gives a knocking sound everytime u go on humps and intermitten rattling sound in cabin, I've got no other complaints regarding ex. Simple rule. No free lunch. U get wat u pay for..u pay peanuts, u get monkeys.... However...I have to say that by that metaphore, the forte sure is one cool monkey

by pessimizt 11th February 2010, 7:52 am

aryanz82 wrote:Apart from the cracked windscreen, suspensions which gives a knocking sound everytime u go on humps and intermitten rattling sound in cabin, I've got no other complaints regarding ex. Simple rule. No free lunch. U get wat u pay for..u pay peanuts, u get monkeys.... However...I have to say that by that metaphore, the forte sure is one cool monkey

Totally agree ! Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) 332362

Am proud to be an owner ! Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_razz

by kapitan 11th February 2010, 7:56 am

aryanz82 wrote:Apart from the cracked windscreen, suspensions which gives a knocking sound everytime u go on humps and intermitten rattling sound in cabin, I've got no other complaints regarding ex. Simple rule. No free lunch. U get wat u pay for..u pay peanuts, u get monkeys.... However...I have to say that by that metaphore, the forte sure is one cool monkey

cracked windscreen??? did not happen to me....

knocking sound??? well, after change lower springs and realignment, handling is perfect.....

cabin sound... nothing heard, well insulated with cushioned door panels....

by horus 12th February 2010, 4:02 am

only complain.... no engine temperature sensor guage for the Ex model.... damm.......

by aryanz82 12th February 2010, 8:54 pm

horus wrote:only complain.... no engine temperature sensor guage for the Ex model.... damm.......

yes yes....forgot to add those...eventhough a temperature indicator will flash when temp is too high...it still does complement the inexistence of the guage. If so, y put a fuel guage....an indicator for low fuel will suffice as well.

Any cheap temp guage that can be used in forte or koup?

by aryanz82 12th February 2010, 8:55 pm

Typo... I mean does NOT complement

by :) 10th March 2010, 5:35 pm

complaint complaint !!!! Complaints with 1.6 EX(A) Icon_biggrin

by eeling 11th March 2010, 10:05 am

windscreen crack, clocking sound at the steering wheel, cracking sound at rear suspension etc.... still not as bad as my engine light surfacing n bumper came off together with bodykit when hit......

by pessimizt 11th March 2010, 10:30 am

eeling wrote:windscreen crack, clocking sound at the steering wheel, cracking sound at rear suspension etc.... still not as bad as my engine light surfacing n bumper came off together with bodykit when hit......

Wow, engine light ? Is it overheated ?
Bumper and BK came off ? Sounds quite a bad accident. What happened ?

by eeling 11th March 2010, 10:40 am

the engine light has been resurfacing for the past 7 mths n ubi servicing centre has changed whatever parts that might b causing the problem but still not resolved as for the bodykit cos too low liao so sometimes if parked to in to the kerb the bumper will just come off. imagine driving with the bumper dangling, so pei seh lor....

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