Saddness: dream shattered

lol...

patience is virtue. your time would come.

if you cannot afford, don't even dream, it will become a nightmare...

Look like poems sia...
One rule when it comes to buying things. When the price seems very good dun hesitate too much. Before you know it the good price will be gone..

kapitan wrote:if you cannot afford, don't even dream, it will become a nightmare...

this is somthing that I must have. Even it is a liabilty.
I did have this car craving before. Imagine I had test drive the koup three times and
went to showroom more than ten times just to see the car.

I sm sure I am able to drive this car till full loan repayment

aural wrote:Look like poems sia...
One rule when it comes to buying things. When the price seems very good dun hesitate too much. Before you know it the good price will be gone..

I do not quite agreed. This is all luck. That's all.

Nobody can perdict the koup price to increase THIS MUCH

The Koup is actually quite affordable for what it offers. C&C is a public listed co and exists solely to make profits. Nothing wrong wif that. If one is not earning much and a rise of $1k or $2k becomes a deal breaker, it's a good reality check that perhaps it's time to re-evaluate one's priorities. Or save more and wait for a 2nd hand one to appear.

Pritority is decide by oneself.
One word -PATIENCE

just be patient and wait for your chance. time will come. in a mean time, you can stay around in this forum and know things about CnC, forte, and koup.

Guardian wrote:I sm sure I am able to drive this car till full loan repayment

lol thats what everyone says until they own the car for the 5th year.. then the itch to change car comes again.

Guardian wrote:

aural wrote:Look like poems sia...
One rule when it comes to buying things. When the price seems very good dun hesitate too much. Before you know it the good price will be gone..

I do not quite agreed. This is all luck. That's all.

Nobody can perdict the koup price to increase THIS MUCH

No offence, but this is normal. When the Forte was first launched in sg the prices are about 10k lower. So far those who waited paid for the higher price also. Nothing to do with luck. Pure demand and supply. I was unable to buy the Forte at the low price in april and my friend did becos he did not own a car because of the same situation as you but managed to rid my old ride at Sept 5 months after the launch and price was about 8k difference when it was launched in march.
My point is you are not the only one, my friend who bought in april told me no point to buy the forte as the price increased 8k from where he first booked the car, but i still buy.. why? cos i like the car.

You can wait but i think it will not go back to launch price, that is why i just buy the forte at 8k higher than launch and so did many others.

actually i think that cnc raised the price because they cannot meet the demand

among all the cars i considered while buying, honda miti and hyundai all can deliver the car within 2 - 3 weeks. kia is the only 2 that told me within 3 months

probably if they got ready stock like the other brands, the car might be priced cheaper

also don't forget COE is always cheaper during the months of march - july
so wait till then and check out the prices again ba

jeRrRKKKK wrote:actually i think that cnc raised the price because they cannot meet the demand

among all the cars i considered while buying, honda miti and hyundai all can deliver the car within 2 - 3 weeks. kia is the only 2 that told me within 3 months

probably if they got ready stock like the other brands, the car might be priced cheaper

also don't forget COE is always cheaper during the months of march - july
so wait till then and check out the prices again ba

Yah but also have to be practical, we cannot always be comparing the launch prices. If launch prices and later prices are the same, it will really not make sense already.

Guardian, if u r comparing with launch price and a $5k diff shatters ur dream, my guess is u might never own it.

Y compare to launch price when it will always be lower than future price. I would not say it will be the lowest price as we will never noe. But the launch price will definitely by a very very low price.

U shud instead compare to the market value of a coupe. Relative to Honda Civic coupe, Koup is way too cheap. Relative to Daihatsu Copen, Koup is in many ways more superior. Relative to Hyundai Tuscani, it looks more stylo and gives better value for money.

But if u still want to get it at <$65k, can wait and see if next year price will drop a few K, but in my view it will almost be unlikely to drop to <$60k. Y? bcuz like the Forte sedans, they will keep improving the features so no reason for them to drop the price to compete with others.

Who noes maybe in the future Koup will come with integrated GPS and reverse cam but at the price of near $70k (for 1.6A)? Also, the auto Koups we have now are of 4-speed, they might bring in 5-speed in the future.

maybe TS can consider and 2nd hand integra.

but to TS: how many year loan u take on your current car and what is ur current car?

Guardian wrote:I saw my dream car that is the Kia forte koup and fell in lve in first sight. I told myself I will save up for this car. Very determined that i will clear up my current car loan of 20k.
Now the koup had went up to $64999 and this means I need to save more.
I am not holding a high pay job and that's means my dream is shattered.

Evetytime I look at foup picture, my heart hurts and this seems an impossible wish to own this car.

Why do c&c raise the price so much?
It is better to make it more affortable rather and more people will
buy instead of earning that few $$$$ which makes people think
twice because of the price.

C&c - make this ride MORE AFFORTABLE to get the sales of people like me.

if its ur dream car and u really want it so badly, just get it
but be prepared to deal with consequence of not having enough $

unlikely price of car will go down.. unless coe drops to late 08 - early 09 region
some now SE charging higher for add-ons (e.g red leather seats) and less freebies given
one way to counter this is to take more loan and demand more freebies
btw free 3yr servicing also comes at a drawback of 2.49% int for loan + min. 7yr loan

c n c has prob meet their initial target of koup sales, thus now looking at increasing their profits by increasing price of car (nothing much to lose except more profit per sale)

The last I count in this forum. There are two guys gloating over this topic now.

Back to this, car prices are always moving up and down and like many here said, it is only natural that the prices go up after the launch then down.

NiVleK wrote:The last I count in this forum. There are two guys gloating over this topic now.

the reason why we are so interested in the price of the car is because we own it
obviously as owners we'll want our assets to have as high a value as possible

from your reply i get the feeling that you are too rich for a koup, 5k is too small a sum for you to even be bothered about...
after you get your GTR come here post pictures for us to see ok!

jeRrRKKKK wrote:

NiVleK wrote:The last I count in this forum. There are two guys gloating over this topic now.

the reason why we are so interested in the price of the car is because we own it
obviously as owners we'll want our assets to have as high a value as possible

from your reply i get the feeling that you are too rich for a koup, 5k is too small a sum for you to even be bothered about...
after you get your GTR come here post pictures for us to see ok!

First thing is that a car is never an asset.

It is a liability that has to considered seriously.

I am just your average working guy.

TS, wait a yr or two for 2nd hand, dont jump inot e pool of liability without sufficient monetroy backups... wait for nissan sunny?? i was looking @ golf n hopin for new nissan sunny(dunoe got ant)... but koup came in e rite timing.. hahah... itz like love.. no pt forcing... understand??

jeRrRKKKK wrote:

NiVleK wrote:The last I count in this forum. There are two guys gloating over this topic now.

the reason why we are so interested in the price of the car is because we own it
obviously as owners we'll want our assets to have as high a value as possible

from your reply i get the feeling that you are too rich for a koup, 5k is too small a sum for you to even be bothered about...
after you get your GTR come here post pictures for us to see ok!

first time i heard car is an ASSET!!!

Chirstmas is round the corner, make it ur wish and hope for the best. Maybe Santa will make the COE drop again and the price will drop...... Cheer!!!

U can dream for coe to drop.... then ur dream will come true

EvoForte wrote:

jeRrRKKKK wrote:

NiVleK wrote:The last I count in this forum. There are two guys gloating over this topic now.

the reason why we are so interested in the price of the car is because we own it
obviously as owners we'll want our assets to have as high a value as possible

from your reply i get the feeling that you are too rich for a koup, 5k is too small a sum for you to even be bothered about...
after you get your GTR come here post pictures for us to see ok!

first time i heard car is an ASSET!!!

LOL.

Potatoes wrote:U can dream for coe to drop.... then ur dream will come true

It must be a constant low in order for the price to drop drastically too.

EvoForte wrote:

jeRrRKKKK wrote:

NiVleK wrote:The last I count in this forum. There are two guys gloating over this topic now.

the reason why we are so interested in the price of the car is because we own it
obviously as owners we'll want our assets to have as high a value as possible

from your reply i get the feeling that you are too rich for a koup, 5k is too small a sum for you to even be bothered about...
after you get your GTR come here post pictures for us to see ok!

first time i heard car is an ASSET!!!

from an accounting point of view a car is an asset
liabilities are long term loans

PillowER wrote:Chirstmas is round the corner, make it ur wish and hope for the best. Maybe Santa will make the COE drop again and the price will drop...... Cheer!!!

even if the COE drop, i doubt that the car price will be below the 60k mark.. C&C wan to make money too.. maybe can wait til next year chinese new year la.. see if the price drop.. in the meantime, save money for the insurance and maybe a downpayment lor!!

There is always a timing for everything. Keep the dream alive. You will get there.

jeRrRKKKK wrote:
from an accounting point of view a car is an asset
liabilities are long term loans

Good one. Gotta tell my wifey that so that i can get the new 5-series when it's out next year. That car is gorgeous!

redkoup wrote:

jeRrRKKKK wrote:
from an accounting point of view a car is an asset
liabilities are long term loans

Good one. Gotta tell my wifey that so that i can get the new 5-series when it's out next year. That car is gorgeous!

Not so fast....

That asset has an offsetting account called accumulated depreciation.....

So in layman term, the value keep dropping....hahaha......

Which means this is not a good asset.

Sama sama for long term loans when you pay them off in installments.

Best assets in the book....is cash which we don't have enough all the time.

Bah....Now u know why i dun like talking to accountants. Otherwise i would land up wif the other kind of B.M.W.....

redkoup wrote:Bah....Now u know why i dun like talking to accountants. Otherwise i would land up wif the other kind of B.M.W.....

LOL you are funny!
btw, my next car would be the likes of the accord, camry or teana
drive a sports car when you are young, when old always go luxury!

face it,singapore is the plc on earth that you will see car price going up or down so much in matter of mths.the same car parking beside yours may cost $10k more or less.its normal.thats about timing and luck.

if we want to fool ourselves into that a car is an asset, by all means.

Guardian wrote:I saw my dream car that is the Kia forte koup and fell in lve in first sight. I told myself I will save up for this car. Very determined that i will clear up my current car loan of 20k.
Now the koup had went up to $64999 and this means I need to save more.
I am not holding a high pay job and that's means my dream is shattered.

Evetytime I look at foup picture, my heart hurts and this seems an impossible wish to own this car.

Why do c&c raise the price so much?
It is better to make it more affortable rather and more people will
buy instead of earning that few $$$$ which makes people think
twice because of the price.

C&c - make this ride MORE AFFORTABLE to get the sales of people like me.

be contented with what you have.

NiVleK wrote:if we want to fool ourselves into that a car is an asset, by all means.

asset or not, it is just a financial term.

car in this case..it's called a depreciating 'asset'. and if you are taking loan, it's a liability.

hence.. having a car in SG is liability on something that depletes in value..with the interest, u lose even more.

want the Koup to become sustain it's value when u sell? Keep it for 20 yrs and hopefully, it becomes legend on the international track in this time, or be the main car in a drift cartoon (Trueno AE)...otherwise, keep it for 40 years and it'll be a vintage by then.

my rule is simple, buy something u can afford w/o having to worry abt $$$ issues... always use less den 20% of yr income to upkeep d car... or can always try to make more $$$.....

ace wrote:

redkoup wrote:

jeRrRKKKK wrote:
from an accounting point of view a car is an asset
liabilities are long term loans

Good one. Gotta tell my wifey that so that i can get the new 5-series when it's out next year. That car is gorgeous!

Not so fast....

That asset has an offsetting account called accumulated depreciation.....

>> This is what we called a "CONTRA ASSET ACCOUNT". hehe..just to clarify.

So in layman term, the value keep dropping....hahaha......

Which means this is not a good asset.

Sama sama for long term loans when you pay them off in installments.

Best assets in the book....is cash which we don't have enough all the time.

>>> CASH IS KING.

jeRrRKKKK wrote:

EvoForte wrote:

jeRrRKKKK wrote:

NiVleK wrote:The last I count in this forum. There are two guys gloating over this topic now.

the reason why we are so interested in the price of the car is because we own it
obviously as owners we'll want our assets to have as high a value as possible

from your reply i get the feeling that you are too rich for a koup, 5k is too small a sum for you to even be bothered about...
after you get your GTR come here post pictures for us to see ok!

first time i heard car is an ASSET!!!

from an accounting point of view a car is an asset
liabilities are long term loans

hehe, looks like there's a good pool of accountants here in this forum.

redkoup wrote:

jeRrRKKKK wrote:
from an accounting point of view a car is an asset
liabilities are long term loans

Good one. Gotta tell my wifey that so that i can get the new 5-series when it's out next year. That car is gorgeous!

Then u can sell him urs...

By the way, about the two posts gloating about the same topic? its by the same guy if u didn't notice...

NiVleK wrote:

jeRrRKKKK wrote:

NiVleK wrote:The last I count in this forum. There are two guys gloating over this topic now.

the reason why we are so interested in the price of the car is because we own it
obviously as owners we'll want our assets to have as high a value as possible

from your reply i get the feeling that you are too rich for a koup, 5k is too small a sum for you to even be bothered about...
after you get your GTR come here post pictures for us to see ok!

First thing is that a car is never an asset.

It is a liability that has to considered seriously.

I am just your average working guy.

Err,,actually car can be an asset, but depending on the price and date you purchase.
For those who bought in Feb 09, now is about 13k difference.
Why cannot sell for a profit?
Thus, we can consider those car bought at the bottom as an asset.

Lol. buy within your limits bro
Im happily driving a Forte 1.6 EX(A) now without straining my wallet.

omg2doors wrote:

NiVleK wrote:if we want to fool ourselves into that a car is an asset, by all means.

asset or not, it is just a financial term.

car in this case..it's called a depreciating 'asset'. and if you are taking loan, it's a liability.

hence.. having a car in SG is liability on something that depletes in value..with the interest, u lose even more.

want the Koup to become sustain it's value when u sell? Keep it for 20 yrs and hopefully, it becomes legend on the international track in this time, or be the main car in a drift cartoon (Trueno AE)...otherwise, keep it for 40 years and it'll be a vintage by then.

Most of us (including me) take loan to buy a car. So if we want to consider it as an asset, it is fine. It is just words play.

In the end, it is how much you can afford and living within means.