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Post by unlimitedz on 14th November 2009, 8:30 pm

Finally, i get to go for my testdrive, 11wks aft payment @ Vivo..
Tit. Silver, Manual 1.6L. (I insisted on any color but red, as i wanna try e feel of other colors then my ride.. hahah)
Similar to gambling, most of us book the Koup without even having the chance to sit in, testdrive, compare specs nor foresee-ing its true value..
When my SE drove e car out, I gotta admit the looks of a moving Koup caughted me for 5secs man... hahah.. It is muscular, unbelievable, sexy!!!

First Impression
The leather steering wheel accompanied with lots of controls + LED linings around the speakers + Boot space + Glowing meters = Kool. Boot space is enough to transform Koup into a family car(able to squeeze 3 more friends into e boot = 4+3=7!!). Rear passenger space is surprisingly large(try sitting in RX8/Beetle rear seats -.-'''). There is insufficient head and leg room for me (i'm 1.8m).
Again i must say, KOUP is beautiful...

The ride
Mechanically speaking, i wasn't able to throw Koup in any extreme tight corners. Biting pt of clutch is CRAZY!! (I have tried integra, np..) Engine stall 5times!!! No joke.. 5yrs licence + have been driving 3-4 times a wk still stall .. Brakes bite gracefully.. Naturally, e red carpet does increases my driving mood..

At e traffic lights, kinda sad tat thr's no WRX nor GTI on e sides(hahah jst purely for fun).... any1 would have anticipate wat will unfold next.. Accelerator was floored immediately, e tires was caught off guard and spinning crazily before catching-up with friction.. No surprise, thr's huge jerk forward but e acceleration i must say is loud(sound proof no gd??) + responsive!!.. Itz kinda heart stopping, Handling was ok for me mayb got used to Hydraulic steering as my dad's ride was...

Looking into the rear view mirror, my 8yrs Precious seems to b enjoying e ride n is equally excited!! Glancing my left, bet my SE stilll haven't got over my 5 times engine stall.. hahah.. But he still looks kool...

If there is anything to complain about
No LED daytime running lights on both front n rear!?!?
Rear windows kinda small..
No Turbocharged!!!???
No GPS!??!
No Scissor Doors!?!?!?
Biting pt is hell crazy!! gotta tk some time to adapt..


Koup is a Stylish, Value for money(i got it @e lowest price), Comfortable Ridez.
Compared to any 2d coupe(with a price tag of $**,000), i don’t need to re-emphasise itz VALUE FOR $$!!


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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by johnno on 14th November 2009, 9:06 pm

Great review,bro
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by JF_Koup on 14th November 2009, 9:44 pm

nice...nice price u got urs for too! seems like u hv had some fun today.. Razz so did ur SE say anythg abt the shipment? haha..
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by omg2doors on 14th November 2009, 10:10 pm

hey i went to test drive today also haha..

also the greyish silver one...
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by NiVleK on 14th November 2009, 10:23 pm

So what you think of it?
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 14th November 2009, 10:29 pm

johnno - ty.. ahha... jst spend some time to think abt writing n share wif bros n sista koupians lo... LOL..

JF-koup - shipment is bad.. jialat... haiz... mid / end dec maybe??? haiz...

omg2doors - hahah.. i was hopin to drive a green koup actually.. haha but no luck..

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by JF_Koup on 14th November 2009, 10:39 pm

haha...u referring to even those like u who booked at vivo?

like tt then i think for ppl like me who booked mid-oct can wait till jan/feb liao..hurhur..zzz
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 14th November 2009, 10:42 pm

no comment... testdrive was really really fun... shipment results are crazyly negative... just hope n pray.. hahah....

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by psionix on 15th November 2009, 12:06 am

did you try cruising then dropping a gear plus flooring and overtake? Hows the response then?

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by whitechoco on 15th November 2009, 12:46 am

wow.. finally u went for ur test drive liao.. hehee..
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by yeufui on 15th November 2009, 1:21 am

yeah the shipment date is crazy, have to wait 4 months my god...but on the other hand it might not be a bad idea to receive koup on the 2nd or 3rd or 4th batch because there maybe enhancement along the way if the earlier batch of koup receive enough complaints. Just like the enhancement of forte and also the better motor steering for all the future forte...

hahaha...just a way to console the brain....LOLx

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Post by redkoup on 15th November 2009, 9:11 am

unlimitedz wrote: Glancing my left, bet my SE stilll haven't got over my 5 times engine stall.. hahah..

haha.....i neber stall but nearly couldn't even get out of the carpark lot. tried to slot into gear but all i got was a loud "GRRRRRRR" sound. tried again and again "GRRRRRRRRR". then SE reminded me that i forgot to step on clutch.....damn paiseh. Embarassed
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Post by Mac on 15th November 2009, 9:51 am

unlimitedz wrote:At e traffic lights, kinda sad tat thr's no WRX nor GTI on e sides(hahah jst purely for fun).... any1 would have anticipate wat will unfold next.. Accelerator was floored immediately, e tires was caught off guard and spinning crazily before catching-up with friction..

Wheel spin? I am surprised with max torque of only 156nm at 4200 rpm this is happening. Perhaps the tires traction is not good? BTW, GTI max torque come in around 1800rpm, I doubt you can catch up with it. But I know u just mentioned it for fun or as a joke.

unlimitedz wrote:If there is anything to complain about
No LED daytime running lights on both front n rear!?!?
Rear windows kinda small..
No Turbocharged!!!???
No GPS!??!
No Scissor Doors!?!?!?

My take:

LED DRL - I don't want one, it is too much of a wannabe. It's like BMW angel lights, only looks good in BMW.
Rear Windows too small - most coupe are like that, it would otherwise won't look good
Turbo-charged - I want this also. Another technology that Kia should pursue is dual-clutch transmission. With the 2 combo; small engine with turbo (low rpm high torque, high bhp for small engine) and super fast gear change, it will be a major contender into conti space. BUT, it won't cost the same as today.
GPS - I'd rather have a Garmin, I have not seen any factory GPS that is good, those in Audi, BMW or Merc has outdated maps. You could be driving along Changi Exhibition area and the map will show u are in the seawhereas local Garmin maps has KPE days after it is opened. GPS is only as good as the maps it has, without updated maps and POIs, it is only for show.
Scissor Doors - what are these? Like those in RX-8? Thought they are called "suicide door".
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by epig on 15th November 2009, 10:49 am

Mac wrote:
unlimitedz wrote:At e traffic lights, kinda sad tat thr's no WRX nor GTI on e sides(hahah jst purely for fun).... any1 would have anticipate wat will unfold next.. Accelerator was floored immediately, e tires was caught off guard and spinning crazily before catching-up with friction..

Wheel spin? I am surprised with max torque of only 156nm at 4200 rpm this is happening. Perhaps the tires traction is not good? BTW, GTI max torque come in around 1800rpm, I doubt you can catch up with it. But I know u just mentioned it for fun or as a joke.

unlimitedz wrote:If there is anything to complain about
No LED daytime running lights on both front n rear!?!?
Rear windows kinda small..
No Turbocharged!!!???
No GPS!??!
No Scissor Doors!?!?!?

My take:

LED DRL - I don't want one, it is too much of a wannabe. It's like BMW angel lights, only looks good in BMW.
Rear Windows too small - most coupe are like that, it would otherwise won't look good
Turbo-charged - I want this also. Another technology that Kia should pursue is dual-clutch transmission. With the 2 combo; small engine with turbo (low rpm high torque, high bhp for small engine) and super fast gear change, it will be a major contender into conti space. BUT, it won't cost the same as today.
GPS - I'd rather have a Garmin, I have not seen any factory GPS that is good, those in Audi, BMW or Merc has outdated maps. You could be driving along Changi Exhibition area and the map will show u are in the seawhereas local Garmin maps has KPE days after it is opened. GPS is only as good as the maps it has, without updated maps and POIs, it is only for show.
Scissor Doors - what are these? Like those in RX-8? Thought they are called "suicide door".

bro.. scissor doors are lambo doors.. goes vertically up.
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by NiVleK on 15th November 2009, 11:45 am

I do agree with the gps thing. It's good to just get a standalone unit. Not too expensive and has much more features and updates to the map than the built in device.
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by Mac on 15th November 2009, 12:12 pm

epig wrote:bro.. scissor doors are lambo doors.. goes vertically up.

ah .. I see. Those cannot open fully in HDB carparks .. haha .. ceiling too low.
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by scalar on 15th November 2009, 2:53 pm

my hp got garmin gps too....
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 15th November 2009, 11:46 pm

psionix - overtaking no problem... tat includ gettin use to the car fully + manual... mayb its my first 2D.. seems kinda "amazed or powerful" by it... LOL... bet itz e same when u drive 1.6 forte...

choco - yup.. finally get to testdrive liao... but kinda sad... go till A.H then u-turn back... kinda short man... really... + 2 stall before exiting LK =

redkoup - u 2D experience stil forgot clutch in ar?? wah.. LOL... but never stall = my legs kinda cramp, didnt adjust e seats all e way till back... lets hope thr's still space to move backwards.. rear window is large eugh, side mirrors oo.. gre8!! damn excited!!

max - 1.6M, naught to 100 is <12seconds rite?? koup cannot b faster then GTI lah... ahhaha.. maybe i clutch + accel too much.. itz lambo scissor... hahaha.. LED like AUDI would be really GREAT!!

Nivlek - guess i would use mobile voice gps one... more solid... hahah..

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by whitechoco on 15th November 2009, 11:50 pm

hehe.. you will get the hang of it when the koup arrives..
anyway i think urs still longer than mine. My test drive was really cut super super short then..
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 15th November 2009, 11:54 pm

hahah.. u go bz period mah... kinda sad(journey short) + shy(so old liao stil stall car) + anthu(2D, not use to low seating)... mixed feelin man...

btw anybody rev till 4000 - 4500 rpm??? i really really like e sound n response... is it dmgin e engine 2rev @ high rpm frequently??? i knw engine is not fragile as paper... jst wanna make sure.. hahah..

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Post by whitechoco on 16th November 2009, 12:01 am

the seat can make higher one.. hehe.. the one i test drove the seat wasn't that low. i cannot remember i rev until how much.. too busy to look at the numbers.. LOL.. i just knw i did floor the accelerator..
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 16th November 2009, 12:25 am

nice one... tats e spirit!! i like low low feelin.. haha.. just gotta spend sme time gettin used to it... hmmm... testdrive more often lah!!! whahah

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by Genesis33 on 16th November 2009, 12:28 am

HI, Had my 1.6 M test drive today too.

Floored the accerator once i turn of the lengkee showroom..
Rev till redline for 1st and 2nd gears.. 3rd gear nv see how much i rev to..
Power wise okay la.. rev till redline mah. hahaha. had 4 people in the car..

made a U-turn and floored again. the SE keep telling me infront got car.. hahahaha! Fun man.. but after u turn in second gear the response was a bit slow.. had to wait awhile before it goes to 6.5 k rev..

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Post by whitechoco on 16th November 2009, 12:31 am

haha... yah.. gotta get used.. hmm.. i tink tom i will give my SE a call
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 16th November 2009, 12:32 am

first time driver?? previous ride got similar feelin??
i can differentiate man... mayb very very excited...

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 16th November 2009, 12:32 am

for??

lol...
whitechoco wrote:haha... yah.. gotta get used.. hmm.. i tink tom i will give my SE a call

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by whitechoco on 16th November 2009, 12:33 am

unlimitedz wrote:for??

lol...
to ask abt shipment.. LOL... see what she gg to say.
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 16th November 2009, 12:37 am

gre8.. wait for ur update!!!

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Post by NiVleK on 16th November 2009, 6:29 am

ooohhh...sis, give us update!
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by psionix on 16th November 2009, 9:07 am

I only get to test drive the 2.0 MT. Overall, pretty impressed with the car. However, there is one element about it which made me reconsider booking right away.

The gearbox.

The throw is too long, gears are not precise, clutch too touchy and travels too far. Shifting feel is important to me if I want to get a manual. So yup, guess this is the only major shortcoming for the Koup so far.


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Post by scalar on 16th November 2009, 10:27 am

psionix wrote:I only get to test drive the 2.0 MT. Overall, pretty impressed with the car. However, there is one element about it which made me reconsider booking right away.

The gearbox.

The throw is too long, gears are not precise, clutch too touchy and travels too far. Shifting feel is important to me if I want to get a manual. So yup, guess this is the only major shortcoming for the Koup so far.

Actually, most k made cars got dis issue....
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Post by unlimitedz on 16th November 2009, 9:37 pm

change to a shorter gear handle.. confirm diff "feel".. slowly man.. gotta get used to everyhting tats new...The throw is too long, gears are not precise, clutch too touchy and travels too far. - i not high lvl enugh to comment on tis.. hahha//


psionix wrote:I only get to test drive the 2.0 MT. Overall, pretty impressed with the car. However, there is one element about it which made me reconsider booking right away.

The gearbox.

The throw is too long, gears are not precise, clutch too touchy and travels too far. Shifting feel is important to me if I want to get a manual. So yup, guess this is the only major shortcoming for the Koup so far.

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Dynamic, purposeful and lustrous.
Thank you very much Koup – you were terrific.

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by redkoup on 17th November 2009, 1:20 pm

Wonder if there's a short shifter available for the Forte so far?
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 17th November 2009, 1:32 pm

Wow.. seems like you also find koup shifter kinda long huh...

redkoup wrote:Wonder if there's a short shifter available for the Forte so far?

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Post by redkoup on 17th November 2009, 2:24 pm

unlimitedz wrote:Wow.. seems like you also find koup shifter kinda long huh...

let's juz say it wasn't as 'sporty' as i would've liked it to be. prefer the more precise shift on the swift sport.
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by Corgel on 17th November 2009, 3:33 pm

I see from the picture that the gear stick is very short, seems like not much of a distance to travel... hmm... really must go down one day to test drive liao...
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by psionix on 17th November 2009, 3:38 pm

Maybe its very common liao and I am mountain tortoise.

One thing to note is that changing to short shifter must accommodate the Euro-spec reverse gear Razz

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 1st December 2009, 11:38 pm

nice avatar u got thr.... wat color ur koup??
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by 1Seth1 on 2nd March 2010, 6:56 pm

bro, i hate you.. i got my forte at 56..
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 2nd March 2010, 9:15 pm

seriously, i got a shock initially.. tt other brands riders came in to flame.. phew....
no worries man.. hahha.. mayb i can censored e price tag liao... lolx... btw yet to meet u ar?? lolx=)
1Seth1 wrote:bro, i hate you.. i got my forte at 56..

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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by Sanyu on 3rd March 2010, 1:18 am

unlimitedz wrote:seriously, i got a shock initially.. tt other brands riders came in to flame.. phew....
no worries man.. hahha.. mayb i can censored e price tag liao... lolx... btw yet to meet u ar?? lolx=)
1Seth1 wrote:bro, i hate you.. i got my forte at 56..

To add on to the frustration... I got mine at 59... during dec 09.. mad mad mad
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Re: Koup 1.6Manual Test Drive

Post by unlimitedz on 4th March 2010, 12:24 am

Glurp!! bro, firstly nice meetin u finally!! lolx..
Secdly, wow... Nice koup!! e price tag is perfect for it! Kool ride!!
case closed. lolx..
Sanyu wrote:
unlimitedz wrote:seriously, i got a shock initially.. tt other brands riders came in to flame.. phew....
no worries man.. hahha.. mayb i can censored e price tag liao... lolx... btw yet to meet u ar?? lolx=)
1Seth1 wrote:bro, i hate you.. i got my forte at 56..

To add on to the frustration... I got mine at 59... during dec 09.. mad mad mad

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Given e amnt of Style & Substance tat was packed in2 e price tag; offer is simply remarkable.
Dynamic, purposeful and lustrous.
Thank you very much Koup – you were terrific.

Koup TestDrive @ http://www.ceratoforte.forumotion.com/general-discussion-for-koup-owners-f28/koup-16manual-test-drive-t2285.htm
RacingRed Koup @ http://www.ceratoforte.forumotion.com/expose-your-forte-koup-f3/unlimitedz-koup-t2857.htm#110780
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